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Dec 10 2014 02:25pm
Young and Sporty = IS
Love Driving and Performance (Driver's car) = 3 series
Want that "class" or "prestige" and a comfy ride = c class

Is this an every day car? Do you want to show off to friends? Do you have family/kids?

I can't speak for the other brands, but I am a huge fan of Benz. The MSRP of C300 Luxury/Sports Package is around 42k base while (48k with lighting package), the C400 is 49.5k base. For that price, I'd rather get the CLA45 AMG (49-55k Range if you get the "necessary" packages). AMG's are a whole new "monster" compared to the "standard line" of Mercedes and worth every penny. I love the aggressive look; see pic below for #ReindeerCar

I wouldn't touch an Audi unless its an S3 or S4 at minimum. I don't like the exterior design for them.
Infinity is crap compared to the other big dogs



This post was edited by Azn Masta on Dec 10 2014 02:32pm
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I bought a new Acura TL-S SH AWD. Liked the interior better than than the A5, although exterior styling isn't as aggressive. That's what the Cayman GTS is for, though :evil: Never have been a BMW/Mercedes fan. I'd maybe try a new M3/M4 with the v6 twin turbo.

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Quote (Caedus @ Dec 9 2014 11:00am)
If someone told you to get a 7-Series they'd be telling you to get a worse car then the five you listed. The current 7-Series is so out of date there's really no reason to buy one at all. Probably the worst full-size luxury on the market. Maybe a little hyperbole but it's not at the same level the other full-sized luxuries are.

It really depends on what model you pick. A low end C-Class or 3-Series has a pretty barebones interior comparable to high-end models of many entry level brand cars. Of those cars the Audi probably has the best interior at the low end (if you're cross-shopping those Japanese ones with the Big 3 ones, I would wager you're looking at the lower end models). At the high end, with the exception of the BMW they all offer excellent interiors. Audi and Mercedes tend to get the best reputation for interiors, but at the high end it's just up to personal taste.

Mileage is simple. The bigger the engine, the worse mileage they get. Of those, generally speaking the BMW will get the best the Infiniti will get the worst. Maintenance is expensive on all of them, with the exception of Lexus. Safety is irrelevant, they're all modern entry level luxury cars, they're all reliable.

For base models...
1. A4
2. 3-Series
3. IS
4. Q50
5. C-Class

For highest end models

1. 3-Series
2. C-Class
3. A4

4. IS


5. Q50

I wouldn't touch a Q50 or an entry level C-Class. They're all decent options at the higher end. My girl had an 09 IS250, I didn't like it very much. Low end Lexus' are very Toyota-e. High end ones are a little better.



Not true. They're all reliable if you take care of them. If we're going by the (flawed) research, Audi is very close to Lexus in terms of reliability.

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Audi is NOT reliable. your lucky if you get one that is reliable.. and most people who buy cars do NOT maintain them as they should. i know a number of people who have bough audis, and ALL of them either got lemon'ed or were always at the shop. and any car is reliable if you maintain it like you should.
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Quote (TG3 @ Dec 10 2014 08:52pm)
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Audi is NOT reliable. your lucky if you get one that is reliable.. and most people who buy cars do NOT maintain them as they should. i know a number of people who have bough audis, and ALL of them either got lemon'ed or were always at the shop. and any car is reliable if you maintain it like you should.


That simply isn't true. Your personal experience isn't indicative of the world's. People usually tend to exaggerate as well. If you were to believe anecdotal evidence, every company would make only lemons. And I don't think car companies exclusively run lemonade stands.

You can't say a cars not reliable because it breaks if people don't take care of it. If you take care of your car properly, it won't break down. It shouldn't matter if you can abuse a car and have it not break, that's not reliability. People also tend to attack the more expensive to fix cars are less reliable when they really aren't.
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Quote (Caedus @ Dec 10 2014 07:28pm)
That simply isn't true. Your personal experience isn't indicative of the world's. People usually tend to exaggerate as well. If you were to believe anecdotal evidence, every company would make only lemons. And I don't think car companies exclusively run lemonade stands.

You can't say a cars not reliable because it breaks if people don't take care of it. If you take care of your car properly, it won't break down. It shouldn't matter if you can abuse a car and have it not break, that's not reliability. People also tend to attack the more expensive to fix cars are less reliable when they really aren't.


and like i said most people do not maintain their vehicles like their suppose to, in particular of the german brands. VW/Audi/BMW/MB all require higher maintenance than the lexus. and from what ive noticed about audi is that they are pretty damn unreliable because they always have something wrong with them.
Heres one reference towards audis reliability compared to lexus https://autos.yahoo.com/news/consumer-reports--2014-car-reliability-survey-finds-japan-on-top-164529371.html and in recent years this seems to be damn true. BMW's recent change (last 9 years of turbos) have completely fucked up its reliability, don't believe me? check the forums... MB is the only damn german company that has a problem with keeping all its fluids in place of the damn motor? don't believe me? yo obviously hvnt owned/worked on a MB recently to notice how it spills everywhere (esp under). if were takling pre-turbo motors for BMW, they are the most reliable out of the other brands. if were talking the newest of the "luxury" brands it's lexus.
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and like i said most people do not maintain their vehicles like their suppose to, in particular of the german brands. VW/Audi/BMW/MB all require higher maintenance than the lexus.  and from what ive noticed about audi is that they are pretty damn unreliable because they always have something wrong with them.
Heres one reference towards audis reliability compared to lexus https://autos.yahoo.com/news/consumer-reports--2014-car-reliability-survey-finds-japan-on-top-164529371.html and in recent years this seems to be damn true. BMW's recent change (last 9 years of turbos) have completely fucked up its reliability, don't believe me? check the forums... MB is the only damn german company that has a problem with keeping all its fluids in place of the damn motor? don't believe me? yo obviously hvnt owned/worked on a MB recently to notice how it spills everywhere (esp under). if were takling pre-turbo motors for BMW, they are the most reliable out of the other brands. if were talking the newest of the "luxury" brands it's lexus.


The surveys aren't good either because they're spurious. It's not poor reliability of the cars that's causing scores like this, it's the phenomenon of car owners not taking care of their vehicles and some brands (tend be the ones with the cheapest parts...) have a better reputation. If you take care of your car, no reason it shouldn't run great.

And Audi was 5th on that list. Would suggest (if you believe the surveys), they're pretty reliable huh?

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Quote (Azn Masta @ Dec 10 2014 04:25pm)
Young and Sporty = IS
Love Driving and Performance (Driver's car) = 3 series
Want that "class" or "prestige" and a comfy ride = c class

Is this an every day car? Do you want to show off to friends? Do you have family/kids?

I can't speak for the other brands, but I am a huge fan of Benz. The MSRP of C300 Luxury/Sports Package is around 42k base while (48k with lighting package), the C400 is 49.5k base. For that price, I'd rather get the CLA45 AMG (49-55k Range if you get the "necessary" packages). AMG's are a whole new "monster" compared to the "standard line" of Mercedes and worth every penny. I love the aggressive look; see pic below for #ReindeerCar

I wouldn't touch an Audi unless its an S3 or S4 at minimum. I don't like the exterior design for them.
Infinity is crap compared to the other big dogs

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/AznMastaBui/CLA%20250/CLA45%20AMG/AaronCLA45AMGReindeer_zps728fa0f3.jpg

Sounds like you're gay for MB
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Dec 11 2014 11:05am
I drive a lexus is300
BEST CARS EVER
2jz all fucking day!


This post was edited by pyropunk on Dec 11 2014 11:06am
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Quote (pyropunk @ Dec 11 2014 05:05pm)
I drive a lexus is300
BEST CARS EVER
2jz all fucking day!
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r173/xPyRoPuNk93x/00z0z_aJfDzfigj2Y_600x450_zpse410ca5f.jpg


that looks like Hulk's turd
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Dec 11 2014 07:39pm
Quote (pyropunk @ Dec 11 2014 10:05am)
I drive a lexus is300
BEST CARS EVER
2jz all fucking day!
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r173/xPyRoPuNk93x/00z0z_aJfDzfigj2Y_600x450_zpse410ca5f.jpg


too bad the IS350 and IS250 are not 2JZ's.

I say BMW. Best quality, performance, and luxury for you money.

This post was edited by ZK9GT on Dec 11 2014 07:39pm
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