Yeah my ram 1500's 14 mpg isnt fun anymore

What do you want?

Performance ?
Reliability?
Luxury?
A little of all three?

A wrx would suit you. You can pay it off in two years and it will cost you $26-32k new. Generally, depending on the list price and vehicle, you can get cars for a couple thousand less than list price. Don't pay higher than Msrp which you can find on the manufacture website.

Luxury and reliability

My commute is like 1:30~

Ive been thinking maybe a Audi S4

This post was edited by HEIDTB on Oct 22 2014 06:55pm

funny thing is, you kind of have to.

When i got my new challenger a couple months ago, i told them what i was going to pay for the car take-home. As in, all delivery fees and gas guzzler/ taxes and warranty shit, etc all included. They kept giving me numbers quite a few thousand over what i said and they kept saying "this is the best we can do" etc etc..

and i said specifically, "no, fuck you, i told you what i will pay for the car and if you cant do it then i will go home. I dont need to buy another challenger, i already have one thats only 3 years old, Either give it to me for what i said i will pay for it or im leaving".

20 minutes later, they had all the paperwork done and everything for exactly the price i stated with everything included. Not a dime over.

One thing you cant do when buying a vehicle, new or used, it let them push you towards anything you dont need or want, especially the price..

Got my 2014 dodge challenger hemi 6 speed manual for nearly 10k under what they were asking and trying to sell it to me for. A few thousand of that was from trading in my 2011 but regardless, in the end i got a 38k car for just over 30k vs the 36k they were trying to push on me

This post was edited by TURBO_DODGE on Oct 22 2014 07:01pm

Thanks turbo.

Every time I went to a dealership to help my GF buy a car, we've spent 2 hours or so before going home

Well with that as your game plan both you and the salesman are in for a hell of a day

You'll enjoy an s4. Just note that European cars tend to cost more in repairs and maintenance.

The s4 is quite a bit more than 40k, you can either go big and get it or get a 20k car and save for two years for the s4.

Payments for the s4 with no down payment could be around $800 vs $300 for a 20k car.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Oct 22 2014 07:11pm

Im thinking a used s4,

there is no need for a "hell of a day" with salesman though. Go in, tell them what you want exactly, and make it clear that if they cant make it happen, that you arnt going to waste your time listening to them run their cunt mouths and that you will go home.

This post was edited by TURBO_DODGE on Oct 22 2014 07:13pm

In that case, you'll have no problem paying under 40k for a used one.

Good pick

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Oct 22 2014 07:13pm