he's referring to the panel gaps. I can tell from the picture that they are nowhere near close. Looks like the whole door is sagging

Edit -- Words of wisdom - Remove all of the trim, door handle, emblems ect. It's almost impossible to get a paint job looking decent with all of that in the way during pre paint prep. That ontop of the car being black is jsut asking for this to turn out horrible.

This post was edited by jimmyhoud on Oct 6 2014 12:43pm

maybe 1 day il have to courage to do some body work on my van, keep it up and hope you ge the results you want

I seem to remember these having pretty heavy doors. Ya think they look to be sagging a bit simply because its like a 25 year old car? It's a TA so you know somewhere in its life it was drove hard.....

the door does sag a little bit its actually not to big of a problem i thought it was at first until i talked to others with the same car and they said its just fine, and i took all the trim off of the fender, door, and quarter panel, i have done paint work before with the door handle and emblems still on and it actually turned out just fine, so im going to give that a try again and see how it turns out, my issues is im only spraying the driver side and hood as of right now because i still have done the body work on the passenger side (i know its the wrong way of doing it because you makes it damn near impossible to blend the color properly but its what i have to do) and u are exactly right black shows freaking every little minor flaw in the car, but im ok with that because then it shows me what i have to fix, i just sprayed the bare metal parts down and the filler parts down with a self filling primer and i can already see quite a few areas that need to be wet sanded down and still needs some work done. ill post those couple pictures in a few minutes.

Here is the newest pictures after it was tapped off and I just sprayed self leveling primer on all the bare metal parts and the parts where i used the Dolphin glass so i know which parts still need work done.

you are a hero

My Camaros doors sagged about 2 inches at least before I finally gave in and did the hinges on them, some fucker welded the other hinges on too

Need to do it up old-school!

so just to keep everyone up to date i am still doing body work on the driver side, I took some self leveling Primer and sprayed the bare metal parts and the parts where i used the filler and wet sanded it down just to find i still have quite a bit more body work to do, should be spraying it with primer again tomorrow hopefully and if all went well it shouldnt need much more body work done before i paint it.

Try adjusting the hinges. I had an older firebird with the saggy door issue. Might just be me but i'm really picky about how hard it is to latch a door closed on an older car/truck. If it takes any force at all i'm ripping the hinges/latches apart to fix it.

More on point, i was able to get enough adjustment out of the factory hinges to level out the door again. Granted that was a car with 18k original miles on it with factory tires in ~2010 but its worth a shot.