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Feb 8 2014 11:37am
dont get the fiero, just get the 240.
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Feb 8 2014 11:41am
sc300, comes stock with a 2jz that is easily turboed. Hard to find a nice manual one though so gl. 1st or 2nd gen rx7, older supra. If you want to be different that is. or if you live in florida my boy is selling his rb swapped 240 for a pretty good deal, built internal big turbo. It has been sitting here for 6 months at the shop since he moved to cali and I don't think he is ever going to pick it up so I am sure he would let it go cheap as the body is gutted and its basically just a running lsd car with an amazing motor.
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Feb 8 2014 02:29pm
Quote (DuckManParkey @ Feb 8 2014 12:41pm)
sc300, comes stock with a 2jz that is easily turboed. 1st or 2nd gen rx7, older supra


easily?

The head design is different from the GTE version (it's mounted differently), smaller injectors, higher compression pistons (8.5:1 vs 10.5:1 iirc), manifold design is completely different, etc.

If you wanna buy E-gay turbos and other cheap shit, in the long run, this will cost you more than going with GTE in the beginning.

Quote (DuckManParkey @ Feb 8 2014 12:41pm)
1st or 2nd gen rx7


I can't speak for the 1st gen rx7s because I have no experience with these but I will touch on the 2nd gens.

I didn't have too many issues with the FC (less issues than I had with my FD anyway) but one of the big issues I had with the FCs was the DTSS (rear wheel steering). Like with 240sx's with hicas, any rear wheel steering will make the car the car float and render it unpredictable.
Racing Beat does make a bushing kit to deal with this but subframe work isn't exactly everyone's cup of tea.

If you get the TII, great. Rotaries aren't as bad as people make them out to be. Well maintained ones can get up to some pretty high mileage before needing a rebuild. If you don't end up picking up a TII, maybe a GXL or something, you're gonna find that it's pretty under powered for the weight of the car.

This post was edited by SlyGoSu on Feb 8 2014 02:38pm
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Feb 8 2014 02:39pm
And I can attest to the first gen FB RX7

I frequently work on (not because it breaks) one of my best friend's.

Things to note:

Rust: look for it
Try to find a GSL (these had rear disc brakes AND a limited slip rear differential.)
The carbureted 12a is a wonderfully reliable motor. And has proven to start in serious subzero temperatures, at least in our case. I've heard the same about the fuel injected version, however I don't have experience with it.
Removal of the emmisions stuff (aka the rats nest) is an easy modifcation to free up some power.
Adding a header to these cars makes them sound lovely
If the motor does blow, use this as an excuse to port the engine, and then you have the makings for a serious motor down the line.
There are only about 12 actual parts to a rotary motor. They aren't super crazy to work on. They're just different
There is a steady aftermarket
They are appreciating in value
Gas mileage.....not thrilling.....rotaries love their gasoline. Oil too.
You shouldn't shut a rotary down before it warms up fully.

But they definitely aren't for everyone.

This post was edited by OldAndyAndTheSea on Feb 8 2014 02:40pm
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Quote (SlyGoSu @ Feb 8 2014 04:29pm)
easily?

The head design is different from the GTE version (it's mounted differently), smaller injectors, higher compression pistons (8.5:1 vs 10.5:1 iirc), manifold design is completely different, etc.

If you wanna buy E-gay turbos and other cheap shit, in the long run, this will cost you more than going with GTE in the beginning.


The head is different, but actually flows better than the gte head in case you were wondering in stock form. the 2jz-ge also does not have the oil squirters in the block.
The non gte is still easily turboed, trust me. I was inches from picking one up and doing that as my next project. Check out the major sc300 forum for more info. They have had great success with the one cheap turbo kit that is offered for 2100-2600. with a nicer turbo put on it(some even have been completely fine going pretty far with the turbo it comes with once they have it checked out and better seals put in), the kit is made specifically for the 2jz non turbo motor in the sc300. With that kit it makes 400-450 whp. You can get slightly used turbo for 300-500 that fit the kit which is what I was going to do. I would never use a cheap turbo. Unless you plan on making HUGE power a 2jz-ge-T is the way to go. Don't have to drop 3k on a motor then and swap it in. I researched getting an sc300 as a project for a while just decided against it as I ended up buying another daily driver when I moved to florida because I kept getting pulled over in my basically stock civic like every day here for some reason. Would still love to do it, but I think I am going with an LS swapped rx7 as the 2nd gen bodies are super cheap and 5.3 ls motors here are really cheap also at the junk yards unless I can find a good deal on an ls1 or the such.

Just for reference if you decide to sc300 it up http://thejzforums.forumotion.com/t13-2jz-ge-na-t-basics

This post was edited by DuckManParkey on Feb 9 2014 08:53am
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