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Feb 10 2016 01:52pm
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Feb 10 2016 02:20pm
Weird....isnt it already illegal to drive cars that are not fully street legal? How is that any different?

They can't really make it illegal to mod cars privately on private courses for example.
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Feb 10 2016 02:28pm
Quote (iBruno @ Feb 10 2016 08:20pm)
Weird....isnt it already illegal to drive cars that are not fully street legal? How is that any different?

They can't really make it illegal to mod cars privately on private courses for example.



Fully street legal means it meets local/state safety criteria AND emissions. What they're trying to do is completely ban any modifications on your vehicle.
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Feb 10 2016 02:30pm
...that seems like it could be a slippery slope.

Does anyone have the exact wording on the EPA's proposal? As the petition is written, it'd make it illegal to convert a car to a racecar... which means that any and all backyard hoonigans would have to build a tube-frame from scratch, because modding an existing car would be illegal, which is, of course, a ridiculous amount of over-reach.
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Feb 10 2016 02:31pm
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Feb 10 2016 08:28pm)
Fully street legal means it meets local/state safety criteria AND emissions. What they're trying to do is completely ban any modifications on your vehicle.


That sounds completely impossible to even come close to happening.

Putting a sticker is a modification and falls under Freedom Of Speech in the Constitution....
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Quote (ChowYunFat @ Feb 10 2016 08:30pm)
...that seems like it could be a slippery slope.

Does anyone have the exact wording on the EPA's proposal? As the petition is written, it'd make it illegal to convert a car to a racecar... which means that any and all backyard hoonigans would have to build a tube-frame from scratch, because modding an existing car would be illegal, which is, of course, a ridiculous amount of over-reach.



So its a superfluous law?.. Not sure on the wording, but it sounds fucking dumb if that's what they're trying to articulate.
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Feb 10 2016 02:40pm
I signed it yesterday, EPA can go fuck themselves
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Feb 10 2016 02:59pm
signed it yesterday, its fucking insane, and i thought living in california was bad
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