http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/diesel-focus-st-2014-6-26

Probably wont make it to the american market though.

This post was edited by Blargfish on Jun 28 2014 02:13am

Why in gods name do you want a car powered by Satan?

Focus ST's are the new BRZs.

How can you logically make a statement like that?

How can you logically assume exactly what I mean by text on a screen?

/e By my statement, I mean that Focus ST's are getting really popular, especially in the "fanboy" crowd. Tuner dyno days used to be brz's everywhere as of last year, now they're covered in ST's.

This post was edited by CarsAndKush on Jun 30 2014 10:24am

You're right, I can't, but it's not my fault you posted something incredibly ambiguous.


The focus st has been around for 9 years.

The relationship with brz vs st on "dyno days" is nonexistent.

Your use of fanboy crowd only defines people who drive a specific car.....so, who cares? With that said, aren't we all "fanboys" by the cars we drive?

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Jun 30 2014 12:39pm

No...by fanboy crowd he means people incapable of being honest about the cars and when faced with people pointing out the flaws they dodge and rant about cherry picked positive features as if they change the fact it has flaws.

At the end of the day it's just self justification with little real world logic.

How often do you actually see little ass (1.4L-2.0L)turbo diesel front wheel drive econo box cars on a dyno?



I know in Europe they drive a lot more diesels than in the states. Personally I like the little Ford Focus cars but only with a gas engine. Would never consider one with diesel.....


just my opinion

This post was edited by said_aouita on Jun 30 2014 05:30pm

All cars have flaws. I understand what you're trying to get at but I'm not amused.

Actually i wasn't referring your brz love. you are overly defensive but you don't pretend it's the perfect car.

More about supra/gt-r/insert need for speed car name here crowds. Blind fandom without knowing anything about the car and if it's worth a damn other than looking cool and the illusion of being fast.