Quote (AXIS @ Aug 15 2013 12:11am)
Ive never ridden a dirt bike before.
Not that its really comparable, but I mountain bike a good bit as well as stand up jet ski so throwing around the weight of a bike might be comparable.
Ive ridden my friends ninja 550? and it was pretty easy to pick up.
I think im looking for mostly trail riding with some small jumps/drops.
Ideally something that can cruise at 60mph on the road too.
Even the 250's will cruise at 60. Stay off the interstate with all of them though. I've ridden for years in the mountains you live in. The first time you get that 650 down in a gulley with no way out but dragging it in 95° heat you will hate it. Taking a 650 on actual mountainous dirt bike trails is not a feat for a noob. Riding fire roads is a completely different story. They shine there.
If you buy the jeep get a moto-tote and buy something like a yamaha TTR 225 to get your feet wet. It will haul a grown man around fine while crossing any obstacles you meet. Intermediate (meaning full size but non-race) bikes like that are dirt cheap and tough. Once you get the hang of it if you want to get a dual sport still you can sell it to recoup basically all of your money. Anything more than 7-8 years old has bottomed out price wise.
Spend money on a good pair of boots and a comfortable helmet.
Quote (ie_Killa @ Aug 15 2013 01:00am)
ok well i think you rode a ninja 650? thats a bike that is similar to a dirtbike. Um with having little to no experience i wouldnt do a drz 400, i would do a big bore thumper like the 650's. I love honda motorcycles so i say 650. My father currently has a xr 350 and it goes maybe 60-70 TOP speed... its good riding through trails but a 650 would require more to muscle it around. I personally love supermoto bikes but they have no traction, they use street tires if i am correct. My ideal bike is a cr450f with the supermoto plastics.
The last thing I would suggest to a brand new rider is a 415+lb 650cc bike not running a knobby tire. It will murder him and he will hate it. Good on the road, hell on tight trails. Riding a porky bike like the 650's in the woods relies as much on good instinctive technique as it does physical fitness. Unfortunately those skills don't come overnight. I'm 5'10" 175 in good shape with going on 22 years of dirt experience and I wouldn't enjoy hossing a 650 around in the slick Appalachian trails unless they were cut for an atv. My 450 is already big enough at 225lbs.
The drz 400 is listed at 297lbs dry weight so right at 100lbs lighter. All of these adventure bikes have cult like followings of loyal owners as well.