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Feb 9 2013 09:07pm
Car runs and drives fine while not engaging boost, once I hit boost and get into the car real hard for about 5 minutes the temp hand starts to climb *as if the head was lifting under high loads* but it doesn't seem to be the problem. Turbonetics 2 states over built this car for me, ground up so I don't have the patience to send it back down there to have them figure it out. I would suspect a head gasket problem but not quiet sure. No white smoke, no sweet smell from exhaust, no rough idling etc.. Brand new radiator, 2nd one to be exact. When it does over-heat it has so much back pressure it spews from the radiator cap *obviously I never let it get in a dangerous zone* any suggestions?

B18b1 completely built from bottom end up
Turbonetics turbo kit (runs on 12lbs or 18lbs with toggle switch)
Makes 405hp to the pavement
LS Transmission
Stage 3 Excedy Racing clutch
Eagle rods / pistons etc...
>>COMETIC HEAD GASKET<<
Tuned on Chrome (dealer)

Don't know what the hell it's doing, if anyone has an idea toss it my way. Car isn't my DD, just something to have fun in when I want to go out every now and then. Pictures of it below.



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Feb 9 2013 09:26pm
It could be a lot of things.

First. I see nothing about a modified cooling system. Creating that much horsepower subsequently creates a whole lot of heat too, raising both ambient and internal temperatures. If you're romping on it, and you don't have sufficient cooling you're most definitely going to run hot or even overheat.

The first thing you do when you build a turbo setup correctly is cooling of the three most important aspects to turbocharging.

Intake air temperatures, Oil temperature, and of course coolant temperature.

Also do you have a wideband? what tuning software are you using?

I would like to know your afrs as well, because that also can attribute to related problems.

EDIT: also what is your timing? I'm sure its aggressive as hell too, you could always retard timing a bit to see if that effects anything.

This post was edited by OldAndyAndTheSea on Feb 9 2013 09:37pm
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Feb 9 2013 09:37pm
Quote (OldAndyAndTheSea @ Feb 9 2013 10:26pm)
It could be a lot of things.

First. I heard nothing of a modified cooling system. Creating that much horsepower subsequently creates a whole lot of heat too, raising both ambient and internal temperatures. If you're romping on it, and you don't have sufficient cooling you're most definitely going to run hot or even overheat.

The first thing you do when you build a turbo setup correctly is cooling of the three most important aspects to turbocharging.

Intake air temperatures, Oil temperature, and of course coolant temperature.

Also do you have a wideband? what tuning software are you using?

I would like to know your afrs as well, because that also can attribute to related problems.


Greddy full intercooler
Tuned on CHROME @ 14/18 lbs
14.7-1 AFR (have a wideband)
Mishimoto Radiator

Ive thought of everything from the intercooler blocking the radiator so it doesn't get enough air to the rad and completely suffocates on me. The fans blowing and being inches away from the manifold sucking nothing but hot air back into the radiator while the intercooler is blocking the front of the rad completely.

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Feb 9 2013 09:44pm
Quote (electro @ Feb 9 2013 11:37pm)
Greddy full intercooler
Tuned on CHROME @ 14/18 lbs
14.7-1 AFR (have a wideband)
Mishimoto Radiator

Ive thought of everything from the intercooler blocking the radiator so it doesn't get enough air to the rad and completely suffocates on me. The fans blowing and being inches away from the manifold sucking nothing but hot air back into the radiator while the intercooler is blocking the front of the rad completely.


Okay, and yeah, wrapping the manifold would do nothing but good for underhood temps. Or getting it ceramic coated is even better.

What is the distance between the intercooler and the radiator? They should essentially be touching, with little to no voids between them.

I edited my last post to ask about timing. What is your timing advance?

And if your afrs are 14.5 (at an idle Im assuming) how much does it lean out at wide open throttle?

And you are certain you are not losing coolant anywhere? What about the simple stuff?

Like no brainer questions like, maybe a bad water pump? maybe a bad thermostat?

Like I said, lots of variables...haha


EDIT: also you said fans "Blowing"

Are the fans mounted on the back side of the radiator, or the front?

Or one on each?

because if you have a "BLOWER" fan you must also use a puller fan mounted on the back to effectively cool the system.

May have been a typo, but that could be BIG

This post was edited by OldAndyAndTheSea on Feb 9 2013 09:47pm
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Quote (OldAndyAndTheSea @ Feb 9 2013 10:44pm)
Okay, and yeah, wrapping the manifold would do nothing but good for underhood temps. Or getting it ceramic coated is even better.

What is the distance between the intercooler and the radiator? They should essentially be touching, with little to no voids between them.

I edited my last post to ask about timing. What is your timing advance?

And if your afrs are 14.5 (at an idle Im assuming) how much does it lean out at wide open throttle?

And you are certain you are not losing coolant anywhere? What about the simple stuff?

Like no brainer questions like, maybe a bad water pump? maybe a bad thermostat?

Like I said, lots of variables...haha


Understandable, been busy at it for a little over a month now. In boost im at 10afrs, and I'm thinking my timing might have jumped a notch or so as it starts to take a bit longer to start-up. The intercooler is about 2-3 inches away from the radiator if that, going off the top of my head due to it being complete ice outside and the garage houses my Mustang and my 330xi. The only place the coolant is coming from is the radiator and I have replaced it completely twice, countless caps (will take a picture of the caps in the morning, over 30 FTL). Everything is up to date, but there is another thing I'm uncertain of, the lower hose to my rad is a stock hose (no spring in the center) with that being said and it is planned to be replaced tomorrow I was thinking the lower hose is compressing while under a load causing the back pressure in my cooling system.. Btw this is a vent for myself as I'm so pissed at this car I would sell it to the first person who handed me 5000.. (Obv much more invested.) Anything else you need to know I'll provide all the info.
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Feb 9 2013 09:55pm
Another interesting thought.

How long have you been boosting the motor? There is a slight possibility that when under boost your head studs may be stretching and your head may "lift" causing air in the cooling system forcing your thermostat to close, which could be the source of ALL of your problems.

Try this- Turn your heater on full hot and boost the car up til you see the temps rise. Is the hot air coming out of the heater still hot when the temps are rising like that while you are under boost? If the air is cold, then you know coolant has stopped circulating and then you need to replace the head bolts with ARP fasteners and replace the head gasket. Have the head checked for warpage as well.
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Feb 9 2013 10:01pm
Quote (OldAndyAndTheSea @ Feb 9 2013 10:55pm)
Another interesting thought.

How long have you been boosting the motor? There is a slight possibility that when under boost your head studs may be stretching and your head may "lift" causing air in the cooling system forcing your thermostat to close, which could be the source of ALL of your problems.

Try this- Turn your heater on full hot and boost the car up til you see the temps rise. Is the hot air coming out of the heater still hot when the temps are rising like that while you are under boost? If the air is cold, then you know coolant has stopped circulating and then you need to replace the head bolts with ARP fasteners and replace the head gasket. Have the head checked for warpage as well.


Will get back to you in the morning on this one, completely crossed my mind on that, good news is I have brand new ARP headstuds waiting to be put in it. Car has been boosted for about 6 months or so. Problem started roughly 2 months after it, never abusing the car just having occasional fun.
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Feb 9 2013 10:04pm
Quote (electro @ Feb 10 2013 12:01am)
Will get back to you in the morning on this one, completely crossed my mind on that, good news is I have brand new ARP headstuds waiting to be put in it. Car has been boosted for about 6 months or so. Problem started roughly 2 months after it, never abusing the car just having occasional fun.


Please do, you've now got me curious as to the origin of the problem.
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Feb 10 2013 02:28am
Are you located on long island area ? We would be more then glad to check it out for you.
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Quote (MRPBUILT @ Feb 10 2013 12:28am)
Are you located on long island area ? We would be more then glad to check it out for you.


lol i wonder who this is.
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