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May 26 2014 02:05pm
I live in nyc and am looking for one of two dogs: a Shikoku or a goberian. I've been going to local breeders and shelters but can't find anything. Also google has somewhat failed me here, tending to bring me to "yahoo answer" or something along those lines. I found an international Shikoku breeder that wants 5k for a 3 month old but these seems a little absurd. Any help?

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May 26 2014 02:20pm
my friend briefly looked for shikokus in the south. didn't find any near us. they were a few grand each, not sure the exact amount. you might want to google around for other states. afaik there are very few places in the US.

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this is the email my friend got from the breeder @ july 2012
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Thank you for your inquiry.

What I like to do is have interested parties fill out an application and after that application, I like to speak to them on the phone so that they know all the pros and cons of owning a shikoku. Because they are rare too, the are relatively expensive ($2300 per puppy). This is because it is so expensive to import puppies from Japan. For instance, I co-own a male puppy that we imported from Japan, and the total cost is over $4500 for the puppy. Right now there is a waiting list in place for the litter that may arrive in the fall.  Otherwise, the next litter would not be for about 8-9 months later (they only come into heat 1-2x/year).

Let me know if you are interested in filling out an application.


/edit2: i think this is the site

http://mysite.verizon.net/res177f0s/index.html

you should be able to get on the waitlist and get your puppy by the next 1-2 years.

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May 30 2014 02:07am
Johto is the best place to look.
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Johto is the best place to look.


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Pokemon city in japan.
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Pokemon city in japan.


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Google it
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Pokemon city in japan.


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puppyfind maybe
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Jun 10 2014 12:04am
Quote (mungoflago @ 26 May 2014 20:05)
I live in nyc and am looking for one of two dogs: a Shikoku or a goberian. I've been going to local breeders and shelters but can't find anything. Also google has somewhat failed me here, tending to bring me to "yahoo answer" or something along those lines. I found an international Shikoku breeder that wants 5k for a 3 month old but these seems a little absurd. Any help?
Thanks!


http://www.shikokuclub.org/

plus, info which was easy to google (seems you need to improve your google skills):

There are 3 active Shikoku Ken breeders in the USA and 1 in CAN. The breeder in CAN has the highest production rate and largest program in North America.
USA:
http://shikokudog.com/
http://www.airreyalis.com/
http://www.yamabushikennel.org/
CAN:
http://www.akashima.bc.ca/
Here is a community dedicated to the native Japanese breeds, including the Shikoku Ken:
http://www.nihonken.org/
The Shikoku Ken is not rare in America due exclusively to the reasons you listed in your question, they are rare because the breed is difficult to breed and there is an extremely small gene pool, even in Japan.
In all of North America there are less than 100 Shikoku Ken, and of that 100 in North America there are only 6 stud dogs. The wait lists for a puppy from any of these breeders is at least one year, but the average wait is well over 2 years. Some people have waited longer than 3 years to get their Shikoku puppy. The breed is even rarer in Europe where there is around 50 dogs.
The cost of breeding such a rare breed is extremely high, so I would expect to pay over $2k USD for a puppy in North America and over $5k USD in Europe.
One thing to keep in mind about the Shikoku Ken is that, while they may be closely related to the Shiba Inu or Akita Inu, they really are their own unique breed and are just as different from the other Nihon Ken as they are the same.
I hope this helps you. Good luck with your search.
Source:
I am the owner of Yamabushi Kennel, a non-profit North American Kai Ken & Shikoku Ken preservation effort. I have owned Shikoku Ken since they were introduced to the US about 7 years ago.

and there is also plenty info on google for your crossbreed goberian

rare dogs are not necessarily expensive
have owned and own rare breed dogs
fashion dictates the price of dogs
and if demand outstrips supply then the price can go skywards
even for common breeds

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have a look at the canadian kennel
they have a female born 2012 which they would give away for a small adoption fee

This post was edited by brmv on Jun 10 2014 12:09am
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