Computer Science has nothing to do with audio, just saying.

Thats like sending a mechanic to work on your home electrical, because he knows something about Ohm's Law.

I have to agree with Avoid on this one...

there are factually frequencies that get remove from the track. this is how they remove the bulk of the data. depending on codec it might not even leave frequencies below 60hz or might have only increments of 5hz starting at 20hz. you never know what you unless you convert it yourself with very specific guidelines on frequencies.

and if you'll read back he said using an external hard drive into head unit usb which solves the skipping problem and gives you tons of song space and able to run wmv files. external hard drives are much much cheaper than ipods as well.

you are proportionally getting less of the actual song depending on the compression ratio. a full wmv runs at just over 1400kbps so even with a 320kbps mp3 file you see the difference is huge right?

so whats the point in having high end full range speakers if your music format only plays a portion of the notes the actual song has?

if you think mp3 format is good enough for you then fine we can't argue your opinion of it being good enough. but keep in mind that is only your opinion and the facts of the situation are quite the opposite.

not trying to be a dick or anything but this went on far too long for a simple statement.

So I'm guessing you use WAV's on CD's right? because IPODS and anyhting that runs MP3 is completely inferior and makes audio sound like hell and makes you lose low end, high end and TL numbers right? This is getting retardedly redundant as I NEVER ONCE stated that there was NO quality loss did I? I stated that it's NOT AUDIBLE and it DOESNT effect SCORES and it doesnt effect your frequency. I don't know ANYONE that uses CD's man nobody, even bassracers and the ones that do said they use them because of the skipping not for the SQ or numbers.

If I can't hear the difference I doubt you can. Regardless I can't run CD's becasue the shit skips ok? get loud and come back bitching about ipods.

This post was edited by Hellish Orc on Feb 7 2012 10:52am

they just mad cuz your 50x louder off ipod then they are off anything

I'm guessing that's partly the reason you know cause some guy with 2 Type R 12's knows everything I suppose about SQ and getting loud and low-end and TL numbers and apparently thinks 160 isn't loud yet he's probably never heard that loud

The point I was trying to make the whole time is in a real world enviorment it doesnt make a difference that's a fact I don't care what you guys know or think, I know WAV's on CD has better SQ but like I said I'm not sacrificing the ease of use for a rack of CD's that sound a TINY BIT better if any. If you want to be my guest man doesnt mean your shits any better than mine cause I'll still shit on it I bet.

This post was edited by Hellish Orc on Feb 7 2012 10:57am

you do lose frequencies though and it can very much affect scores if you are tuned to a frequency that was removed when the mp3 was compressed. in spl this is completely situational but can happen.

in sq competition its far more harmful since depending on the compression ratio you can lose a huge amount of the original song which makes it sound worse and hurts you. anyone who runs mp3 in sq comps is only hurting themselves.

so for spl its not as bad(depends entirely on codec being reasonable) and for SQ its pretty harmful.

again this is all opinion aside and simply the way it works. whether you personally can't tell the difference doesn't change anything about it.

You're wrong bro , very wrong... So your opinion means more than anothers huh? I'm sure you can spew out details all day but without a meter/testing of this I'm going to have to call it false way too many heavy hitters use IPOD's for SQ and SPL for this to be true. Funny thing is I bet neither of you use WAV CD's ever so why the fuck even talk? Stop hating and write something worthwhile please. and again please don't diss my temporary Sony when you run fucking Alpine come on now what's that a slight step-up?

ok I must restate what I said earlier using MP3 CAN INDEED cut off freq ranges... but only by about .6khz on the highs and about the same on the lows not remotly noticable on the ear and not going to make difference on a TL not anything noteworthy atleast and this only happens @ 128bit encoding or lower and only on low-end equipment can it be audable if any at all. Ok. So I'll admit I was wrong about the frequencyt thing or atleast how I stated it.

This post was edited by Hellish Orc on Feb 7 2012 11:10am

This discussion is getting very old and annoying though and presents nothing to me... lol when everyone starts using WAV files I'll switch for now my MP3's kick peoples asses who run CD's at the competitions.

This post was edited by Hellish Orc on Feb 7 2012 11:12am