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Feb 21 2012 02:10pm
Quote (Hellish Orc @ Feb 21 2012 03:07pm)
Ok your point is? I got for the competition and bragging rights and to give demo's... I could give a rats ass why Sanford Sound hosts the event how is this relevant to you being a complete audio noob?





You're half correct, it's just the way I worded it... I was trying to say that a coaxial is Tweeter + Midwoofer in 1 platform while components are separate how fucking hard is it for you to understand that?


keep reaching for a way out but there isn't one. when you say JUST it means ONLY. your exact words again.

"and once again you're wrong a Coaxial is a mid-range with a tweeter a component is just a mid-range. " just a mid-range=only a midrange. you said it as plain as day so just admit you don't know shit and walk away.
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Feb 21 2012 02:13pm
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keep reaching for a way out but there isn't one. when you say JUST it means ONLY. your exact words again.

"and once again you're wrong a Coaxial is a mid-range with a tweeter a component is just a mid-range. " just a mid-range=only a midrange. you said it as plain as day so just admit you don't know shit and walk away.


Regardless of what I said it wasn't what I meant you'd have to be completely retarded to think a component set doesn't involve tweeters. It's very easy to missunderstand what I was saying by how I said it but it was there, you're just grasping for shit to make me look bad as usual, even after I admitted you were half right and that my wording was the problem you insist I don't know what a component set is... Something I've installed 100's of times.

ok I re-read what you said: "Component is a mid-driver with SEPARATE tweeter." I thought you meant with tweeter as in built on w/e man think what you want I just read your shit wrong, I'm not good at keeping up with shit on my phone between you and avoid bitching every 2 seconds.

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Feb 21 2012 02:15pm
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Regardless of what I said it wasn't what I meant you'd have to be completely retarded to think a component set doesn't involve tweeters. It's very easy to missunderstand what I was saying by how I said it but it was there, you're just grasping for shit to make me look bad as usual, even after I admitted you were half right and that my wording was the problem you insist I don't know what a component set is... Something I've installed 100's of times.


i literally said

"stop saying component without tweeter...components are a midrange and a separate tweeter that is the definition of a component speaker. and a crossover before you try to get smart."

then you said this in response

"and once again you're wrong a Coaxial is a mid-range with a tweeter a component is just a mid-range. "

this is as clear cut as it gets.
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Feb 21 2012 02:18pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Feb 21 2012 08:15pm)
i literally said

"stop saying component without tweeter...components are a midrange and a separate tweeter that is the definition of a component speaker. and a crossover before you try to get smart."

then you said this in response

"and once again you're wrong a Coaxial is a mid-range with a tweeter a component is just a mid-range. "

this is as clear cut as it gets.


Yeah I re-read what you said my fuckup I am aware what a component/coaxial is it's basic car audio I just got confused as to what you were saying it was and then when I responded I guess I didn't word it very well, you try having an argument with 2 idiots simultaneously... I will give you this you're a lot smarter than Avoid.

at any rate we don't like each other we both think each other are stupid and fail at car audio... so lets do this, lets stop spamming peoples topics and getting reported etc. and just not talk to each other or about each other, fair enough?

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Yeah I re-read what you said my fuckup I am aware what a component/coaxial is it's basic car audio I just got confused as to what you were saying it was and then when I responded I guess I didn't word it very well, you try having an argument with 2 idiots simultaneously... I will you this you're a lot smarter than Avoid.


you completely left out critical information. thats beyond not wording it well.

look how many post your inability to properly read and comprehend before speaking causes and you will realize why i hate it every time you get involved.

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you completely left out critical information. thats beyond not wording it well.

look how many post your inability to properly read and comprehend before speaking causes and you will realize why i hate it every time you get involved.


But you could also look at it as when I do read something properly I give the best advice so, therfore I even shit out plus I could care less about this part of of d2jsp and I mostly just post when I'm bored. I'd rather missread something and provide some shitty advice once in a great while then be wrong most of the time and give bad advice like most people here.

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But you could also look at it as when I do read something properly I give the best advice so, therfore I even shit out plus I could care less about this part of of d2jsp and I mostly just post when I'm bored. I'd rather missread something and provide some shitty advice once in a great while then be wrong most of the time and give bad advice like most people here.


my advice being bad is completely your opinion and not backed up by anything other than your opinion.

i never suggest anything that hasn't proven itself time and time again. you however disregard budgetary guidelines, link stuff without even reading specs, have a very very poor attitude when it comes to criticism, treat people like shit for disagreeing.

mainstream brands aren't high quality but they are good enough for daily use budget systems and i will not press someone into spending more than they need to for things they wouldn't know the difference between. i actually pay attention to what people tell me and consider their situation before doing anything. when better brands aren't in the budget i won't force it on people because there are plenty of good reliable things in cheaper mainstream brands.

if someone says i need a new thats 600rms rated for less than $140 i would say grab a ATR. you however would say spend $60-70 more for a sundown because you don't know how to work with peoples situation and your opinion somehow is more important than their budget.
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my advice being bad is completely your opinion and not backed up by anything other than your opinion.

i never suggest anything that hasn't proven itself time and time again. you however disregard budgetary guidelines, link stuff without even reading specs, have a very very poor attitude when it comes to criticism, treat people like shit for disagreeing.

mainstream brands aren't high quality but they are good enough for daily use budget systems and i will not press someone into spending more than they need to for things they wouldn't know the difference between. i actually pay attention to what people tell me and consider their situation before doing anything. when better brands aren't in the budget i won't force it on people because there are plenty of good reliable things in cheaper mainstream brands.

if someone says i need a new thats 600rms rated for less than $140 i would say grab a ATR. you however would say spend $60-70 more for a sundown because you don't know how to work with peoples situation and your opinion somehow is more important than their budget.


Didn't bother reading all of that just the last part because I find it funny that you wouldn't spend an extra 60-70 for a sundown, shows your lack of information on product. I recommend the best within reason I never just recommend shit because it fits the budget, that's how you end up settling with just enough. If someone comes to me for equipment advice I don't tell them to get CVR's and Type R's I tell them to penny up and buy some real shit thats actually worth the money.

and I only treat people like shit when they offer retarded items like Type R's and HFI amplifiers and Rockford door speakers that cost twice what they should.

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sigh you are just proving exactly why people would rather pm me and avoid for stuff rather than deal with you in here. a budget is a budget and i stick to it to get them the most bang for their buck. i'm not helping people pick out competition gear im helping them pick out low budget daily driver equipment than is good quality and will last them years. you however think they should spend 50%more on things they won't even notice.

i understand their situation and help and all you do is run your mouth at people.
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Quote (Subwoofer @ Feb 21 2012 09:03pm)
sigh you are just proving exactly why people would rather pm me and avoid for stuff rather than deal with you in here. a budget is a budget and i stick to it to get them the most bang for their buck. i'm not helping people pick out competition gear im helping them pick out low budget daily driver equipment than is good quality and will last them years. you however think they should spend 50%more on things they won't even notice.

i understand their situation and help and all you do is run your mouth at people.


People would rather PM me as I've been getting PM's up the ass and Avoid and you probably havn't. Also why offer Type R's when for very little more a lot better can be had? you offer what YOUR familiar with for their budget but not what's worth it. Anyone could offer XPLODS over and over because they're $50 each but you yourself tell people to penny up and get Type R's why do you do that if you understand people? You act like I'm rich lol I understand budgets but I'm not the type to settle for less at the cost of a 20$-50$ expense it's not what I believe in. You guys give shitty advice on equipment and they end up costing the same as what I offer which is way better.

Also you should NEVER EVER recommend a prefab which I see you doing all the time, maybe try to influence people try to build their own and offer free designs. A well tuned box will rape anything recommended in a prefab box unless it's a sealed application even then most prefabs suck. I guess I'm just not used to being a forum with a ton of Novices and I'm used to giving advice to people with $1,000+ budgets.
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