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Feb 7 2012 08:17am
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Haha, funny this is Pine Tree's been around longer than Jason has even been alive. I find that humorous.


I find you humorous. Jason would shred you with experience and knowledge get off your high horse you random scrub and lets see videos of your Fail.

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Feb 7 2012 08:18am
i think we all need to be specific as to what bit rate quality we are discussing because 1.4k kbps cd vs 128kbps mp3 is a shit ton more obvious in loss than 320kpbs mp3.
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Feb 7 2012 08:19am
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i think we all need to be specific as to what bit rate quality we are discussing because 1.4k kbps cd vs 128kbps mp3 is a shit ton more obvious in loss than 320kpbs mp3.


Doesn't matter to me regardless since I know the difference is very little... too early for me to be arguing anyways. So let's move on.
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Feb 7 2012 08:20am
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The thing is you're not wrong in that aspect I've stated many times that mp3's lack minor SQ elements but NOTHING at all audable to ANYONE's ears so why the fuck does it matter? and it's not going to do a damn thing to your SPL numbers gauranteed or else they wouldn't allow ipods at events and people wouldnt run them that are religious with competing that spend 20k+ on their systems and are 40 years old. The point is you told me to get rid of the ipod because I was losing lows and numbers and you could audibly hear it. Well going from my Young Jeezy CD to my Jeezy on my ipod is no difference other than the fact that my IPOD is AUDABLY louder due to the SLA settings. So why the hell do I care? also like I said LOUD people can't play CD's because they skip even though I've used expanding foam, metal brackets and deadener to stop it from skipping and it still does and so did my alpine before it so drop it lol


Which is why I told you to get a podium. I forget you're still in the music stage. If you're burping with tones, and the mp3 format no longer has that frequency due to it benig compressed, its obviously going to be a problem.

Play Jeezy on your ipod, then get a correct wav format of it and throw it on a podium. I bet you see minor improvements :)
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Doesn't matter to me regardless since I know the difference is very little... too early for me to be arguing anyways. So let's move on.


So now you're saying there is a difference? In the SPL world, even dB counts, ESPECIALLY once its 150+.

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Feb 7 2012 08:21am
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Doesn't matter to me regardless since I know the difference is very little... too early for me to be arguing anyways. So let's move on.


128kbps is kind of like a fuzzy radio station. it would be very apparent side by side with even a 320kbps version that the 128 is horrible.

this is why im saying use specifics because 320kbps is not that bad with a good codec but a 128kbps is bad no matter how you look at it.

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Feb 7 2012 08:22am
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Which is why I told you to get a podium. I forget you're still in the music stage. If you're burping with tones, and the mp3 format no longer has that frequency due to it benig compressed, its obviously going to be a problem.

Play Jeezy on your ipod, then get a correct wav format of it and throw it on a podium. I bet you see minor improvements :)


Nah man I used the Thug Motivation 101 Jeezy CD from a Music Store and a crappy version I randomly threw on my ipod and lo and behold no difference except once again the ipod was louder lol... also I don't do Tone formats because they're noob shit if you can't get loud on music sealed then you aint loud and a lot of people with expensive setups based for SPL use ipods so your point is still irrelevant.

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128kbps is kind of like a fuzzy radio station. it would be very apparent side by side with even a 320kbps version that the 128 is horrible.


but it isn't is it? I used 320kbs just like almost anyone else... who uses 128?

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Feb 7 2012 08:23am
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Nah man I used the Thug Motivation 101 Jeezy CD from a Music Store and a crappy version I randomly threw on my ipod and lo and behold no difference except once again the ipod was louder lol... also I don't do Tone formats because they're noob shit if you can't get loud on music sealed then you aint loud and a lot of people with expensive setups based for SPL use ipods so your point is still irrelevant.


All of the 160+ systems I've seen dont use iPods.

I'd like for you to get out the termlab, and prove me wrong. mp3 vs wav.
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Feb 7 2012 08:25am
Quote (Hellish Orc @ Feb 7 2012 09:22am)
Nah man I used the Thug Motivation 101 Jeezy CD from a Music Store and a crappy version I randomly threw on my ipod and lo and behold no difference except once again the ipod was louder lol... also I don't do Tone formats because they're noob shit if you can't get loud on music sealed then you aint loud and a lot of people with expensive setups based for SPL use ipods so your point is still irrelevant.



but it isn't is it?


dude 128 is awful. its like equivalent of a book summary. you ever turned down all the bass and treble and played a song? 128 is kind of like that lol.

ya 320 isn't that bad for most people with a good codec. the chances of someone noticing the difference by ear is much slimmer.

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Feb 7 2012 08:25am
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All of the 160+ systems I've seen dont use iPods.

I'd like for you to get out the termlab, and prove me wrong. mp3 vs wav.


I just might when I make it over to my boys to use it... how about you pull one out and prove me right? works both ways lmao. and nope they don't... I've seen a couple 160's use ipods Keith used an IPOD on his Jeep that does 160's and blows windshields im sure you're familiar with it know how I know? he asked me to use MY ipod at last summers show because he did the music format. I just think you're misleaded behind what every person on the internet believes are CD vs MP3 sure CD is better but not much at all or noticeably.
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Feb 7 2012 08:27am
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dude 128 is awful. its like equivalent of a book summary. you ever turned down all the bass and treble and played a song? 128 is kind of like that lol.


re-read my post.
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