I dont even own a system anymore. I had a small system in my Integra, spent about a grand, and was hitting 142's on Type R's. I had an RE XXX, but it couldnt afford the amp that I wanted. Steve Meade IS a joke. I used to talk to him via Facebook quite often, until he posted his hoe in a bulldog stance and I called it gross and told him to drop the front a few more inches. He got all defensive and tried telling me that air ride > coils. Then he tried to tell me that race cars / drag cars use air ride. So I laughed and removed him. Sanford Sound is a joke, I despise that place. Only reason I'd even step foot in the door is if I wanted Orion parts and thats it. So you dont own a term lab but your shop does? I thought you ran your "shop" out of your house. Wouldnt that mean you owned a term lab? I'm getting defensive because I know I'm right. I've worked with the most experienced audiophiles in Maine period. My old boss has been running his shop here in Maine for over 35 years and has judged the IASCA finals more than once, even ones that werent anywhere near the United States. Just read what you're typing. If you think that by compressing a music file, that you arent losing frequencies on both ends, then your logic is highly flawed.

like i said you can tell the difference when you listen to anything that was made in the digital age. an orchestra sounds choppy in mp3 format plain and simple which means in reality all music in mp3 format is choppy even if it is less apparent in some genres.

while there is a point to where you are going overboard most people couldn't tell you the quality difference between $20 set of dual speakers and a $1500 set of focals. its just one of those things some people feel the need to do and other say its fine how it is.

and ya mp3s can get good quality these days IF your mp3 player supports it.

This post was edited by Subwoofer on Feb 7 2012 08:05am

wav format is define as uncompressed, FULL SPECTRUM. As mp3 is compressed, and not full spectrum.

If you think that you're not losing highs and lows using mp3's, you're dumb.

The problem is you're NOT right period and steve IS right air rides are better than coils. and my shop as in my buddies shop aka his half of the business as in we have 2 garages in seperate areas. Also talk what you want about steve i really don't care I don't have to defend him the guy is famous in the audio world for a reason I don't have to justify anything I think the guys awesome. and you worked with the best in Maine right? you ever met Jason Lamonica? or a few others? because if you worked with the best in Maine you would have been at the SPL competitions IN MAINE where the best in MAINE were. Personally I think I know a ton more than you like a lot more so I don't know where you're coming off as a know it all dickwad. If all you're running are over-priced junk aka type r's with the worst SQ imaginable why are you even posting?

IF you use IPOD you don't have to worry about your CD player supporting it, that's the point... also it's not a big difference man no matter what you think right now MP3 is about equivalent to CD's just plain and simple prove me wrong with a link or something and I'll change my mind you know?

and I concur that if you think you're losing highs and lows with mp3's you're dumb.

Because all of the NASCAR cars and drag cars running 6's use air ride, right? No, they use static suspension.

"The Waveform audio format, or WAV in short, is often used in its uncompressed version. As the audio signal is not subject to any processing, there's little loss in audio quality. The caveat is that the file size would be larger than an MP3 file.

MP3, on the other hand, is a lossy compression format. It dumps the audio bits which the encoder software deems the human ear incapable of discerning, and compresses the remainder into a smaller file for storage. But compress too much and it will add minute "noise" to the track, otherwise known as compression artifacts. A good way to hear the sound quality deterioration is to listen to the cymbals in a heavy metal track; the clash of the cymbals will lack treble extension.

The quality of an MP3 vs a WAV file will also depend on other factors such as the accuracy of the encoding software you are using as well the quality of your listening device. Headphones with good drivers will be able to better project the deficiencies of a lossy MP3 track as opposed to a pair of budget earphones"

I think I know who Jason is, if thats the guy with the RSX.

I dont run anything anymore, I drive a stock 240sx that still has the stock speakers from 1993 and the stock cassette deck.

like i said it depends on the codec and the bit rate. mp3 can get to 320kbs which helps and depending the codec it can be almost completely fine to being atrocious. this is why its better to go with uncompressed formats because then all the potential problems go away. if you listen to music on a professional level i would hope you would feel the need to appreciate the ENTIRE song over losing some memory space on your ipod.

are we all discussing cd quality=1.4k kbps? cause this is what im discussing.

This post was edited by Subwoofer on Feb 7 2012 08:16am

Haha, funny this is Pine Tree's been around longer than Jason has even been alive. I find that humorous.

The thing is you're not wrong in that aspect I've stated many times that mp3's lack minor SQ elements but NOTHING at all audable to ANYONE's ears so why the fuck does it matter? and it's not going to do a damn thing to your SPL numbers gauranteed or else they wouldn't allow ipods at events and people wouldnt run them that are religious with competing that spend 20k+ on their systems and are 40 years old. The point is you told me to get rid of the ipod because I was losing lows and numbers and you could audibly hear it. Well going from my Young Jeezy CD to my Jeezy on my ipod is no difference other than the fact that my IPOD is AUDABLY louder due to the SLA settings. So why the hell do I care? also like I said LOUD people can't play CD's because they skip even though I've used expanding foam, metal brackets and deadener to stop it from skipping and it still does and so did my alpine before it so drop it lol