1k watts on a 187
and like i said its like hanes vs tommy hilfigure since kicker alpine pioneer are so massly produced more people know about those than better companies like sundown incriminator treo etc etc. since more people heard of the mass producing companies they instantly want those since thats the first brand that pops in their heads therefore they increase prices knowing people will buy them. however if you actuallydo in depth research you will realise there is better brands for the money for example the 187 vs the mass produced ATR

Now dont get me wrong yeah ATR are semi decent subs but for the exact same price 187's win.

tl;dr

what should i get.. used or new idgaf, whatever will give me the best bang for my buck

Kthx

if you are going used gimme a min ill throw you together a nice setp.

This hits like a 700$ budget if you count shipping around 600 without but it would be a nice beginer system

Subs (300+ about 50$ shipping): http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/12-subwoofers/83053-f-s-sundown-sa-12s-cheap.html
Box: Build yourself for about 50$ aand i can help design + tune a box for you.
Headunit 75$: Cheap but will get the job done, allowing for more money spent on better subs/amp. also has a good 4 volt preout which is very nice http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/head-units-processors-eqs/87927-kenwood-excelon-kdc-x692.html
amp: http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/mono-amplifiers/85882-2-aq-1200d.html
Amp wiring 30$: http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KFX-AK8
Car wiring 15$: walmart.

This post was edited by xxcyniccxx on Jun 18 2011 09:48pm

this

overpowered to hell and back and still under 140db...god you must be so proud of suicide running a sub just for 139db.

honestly just gtfo at this point you have no common sense.

Holy fuck I hope this kid is seriously trolling hard.

waiting for him to claim 2 of them would do 280db or 1k rms is low for them or something else stupid at this point.

bro your a dumbass. Price = same, more excursion, better motor and surround making the sensitivity better on 187. they win my lord you clearly know nothing about audio.

i know enough not to post suicide runs of a sub to try and pretend its loud. type-rs will clear 140db daily, and 187s will do 139 for a few minutes. oh hell how will i ever live with my choice of being on the ATR side?!

go away jackass.

i hit 144.3 on the dash sealed with 2 187s on 1k watts not even turned up all the way cause my electricals couldnt handle it well