You didnt say anything that we havent said.. In fact that's the exact amp i recommend him buying. Also just because you ran something the way you did and didnt have any issues doesnt mean thats the right way to do so.. Anogher thing is just because of the equipment you run doesn't mean you have more knowledge.. Basically what your saying is that you know more than me because you have 2 18s on 3500 watts.. I got a single 12 running on 3500 watts on good eletric. Also how do you expect that audiopipe to put out rated on stock electrical? Theres no way it will supply it 14 volts.. Also like i said i ran a couple different sets of type r's on a audioque 2200 and they took it just fine. A set of 12s and a set of 15s. The reason yours fried is because from the sound of it you clipped the shit out of it with bad electrical. Your are right about kooky though he does have one of the bigfest most intricate systems on here and he does know his shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us dont.

This post was edited by eddsoulja on Apr 20 2015 06:19am

No, I didnt but I gave him examples and information and advice not reticule. As far as my experiences I built the box to spec, measured amp with a DMM and voltage never dropped below 14v so think what you want. and yes if you have 6 18's walled on 10k you probably know a hell of a lot more than someone whos running two type r's on 1200w thats just fact. Also when did I say 2 18's was better than a 12 on 3500w? I'm simply saying Kooky knows more than anyone here by far and it's true. Audiopipe does 1500WRMS (give or take 100rms) @ 14.4v when your voltage drops to say 13v (which is around where mine dropped.) you'd be getting in the ballpark of 1000-1200 clean watts @ 13v so it's very capable on stock, I used to run a PSI 18" rated for 1600rms on a Audiopipe 1500 @ 1500RMS (on the meter.) amp got hot sub got hot but sounded good and lasted forever with no problems.

and no it wasn't electrical... I blew the Type R in a custom box I built in a friend trunk on a Alpine MRP800 coils stunk after about 10 minutes of play and the sub was toast soon after. The old Type R 12's are not very powerful they only sport a 2.5" coil and have very subpar cooling. I highly doubt you ran 2200W daily to a pair of 12's. The 15's I believe since they are about 800RMS each and cant ake a bit more power. I never clip my equipment I always set it with an OSCOPE or a DMM. and I never said you dont know anything I just stated that kooky knows his stuff and if he says go audiopipe theres NO REASON to argue it. Audiopipe is the best amp for the money he could get.

And honestly for the price I'd still take the ap1500 over the soundcube 1200 since they put out the same power.

You get what you pay for. Soundqubed is a way better quality amp. For sure no doubt about it. And what i was saying is to get full potential out of your equipment you need good electric. Sure you can slap a 2k watt amp in a stock electrical and say your doing 2000 watts but in reality your no where near it. All your doing is stressing yoir equipment as well as yoir stock alt. I've owned used and built alot of systems. Started out with rookie shit buying whatever sounded good.. Just trying to get this kid to buy something decent from the start and save some money. I know audiopipe is decent for the money but for nit much more you can have a way better amp

And what do you mean you doubt i ran type rs on a 2200? I wouldn't say it if it werent true.. I run a single 12 zcon on a bc3500 right now and my voltage never drops below 14 sub or amp never get hot. Full tilt.. And im about to run 2 12 dss ethos on the same amp untill my other bc3500 gets here then im gonna run 2

This post was edited by eddsoulja on Apr 20 2015 11:09am

I agree don't usually recommend people to cheap out on car audio but not everyone wants top notch equipment and to spend 100's on it some people just wanna bang for a cheap price and audiopipe fills the bill, SoundQubed has been garbage ever since they made changes and raised the price of their amps by nearly $100 but they are still decently priced. The Crescendo BC2000 does 2300RMS @ 13.8 so that amplifier will actually do close to 2k on stock electrical I know mine did when I clamped it on a 90a alt and a stock walmart battery. But if the guy wants to spend the premium I agree hes better off starting with good gear and not stressing his equipment. I honestly like stressing my equipment I like to see how big of a system I can fit with stock electrical and I like to see push my subs and amps I guess thats just me :-p



What I'm saying is I'm sure you did run two type r 12' son 2200 but I doubt you could have sat there for 30 minutes playing it all day long, I know because I built a box to spec and put a 800w Alpine MRP on it and the sub started to stink, I also used to sell tons of Type R's at the old shop I worked at and they didnt like anything over 800-1000w, so I dont see how it's possible that you ran 2200 to two of them daily with no problems but if you did kudos to you.

The ZCON is built a lot better than a Alpine TYPE R so you can feed it way more power than it's rated for, 2.5" coils cannot take more than 800-1000 watts with the cooling alpine uses, sundown subs are rated for 600 but can take 1500 all day. I ran 3000w to a single BTL n2 18" on stock electrical for awhile so lul.