exactly right.

however you should be prepared for him to call you wrong and when you ask him to prove you wrong he will insult you and come up with reasons why he doesn't have to prove anything.

Like zomg seriously? you dont say? you need da powa to make da powa? too bad theres people with 10,000 watts systems with stock alts and huge battery banks lol I think you need to read up a little more before you put out your 2 cents seems like both of you have never actually done an install and just reiterate what you read on the12volt.com lol.

This post was edited by Incriminator on Aug 18 2013 07:29pm

bro you cant even explain to that kid why he needs an alternator you just said it and got smashed on cry less please i dont feel like arguing with u everytime i come on these boards I have a life think what you want I honestrly could care less keep going your garbage installs and spewing ur nonsense it doesnt affect me I'll just keep getting louder while you stay quiet and keep making money installing audio while u sit online all day talking about it. Really I dont need your approval and I dont care for correcting you when you are wrong. We'll just ignore each other.

This post was edited by Incriminator on Aug 18 2013 07:31pm

lets all take a moment to notice how he completely avoids any answers and just goes back to dodging.

and if you would pay attention...i said he needed an alternator if his was as weak as i was assuming it would be.....i never said he needed an alternator no matter what his alternator was.

he then said it was 48 amp output...which of course was too weak...but later on he replied that number was wrong and had a 130 amp alternator and i said he was fine.

so now that i've answered a question that i already answered...

your turn to explain the things i mentioned.

Cmom mr pro installer lets see some pics of your installs anything to show uve actually owned a system lmao... Any idiot who thinks u cant run 1kw on a 90a alt is fucking retarded plain and simple

What am I dodging? look how quick you came online to argue you have no fucking life you're a little stain thats why I'm not going to bother I work 50 hours a week and come onhere to chill not talk to your dumbass all day so just save it broski. why do I have to prove you wrong? I did it before and you blatently ignored the facts so why would I want to waste my breath?

amperage isn't constrained by wire gauge
lights dimming is not caused by voltage drop
voltage drop isn't caused by your electrical system being unable to keep up with power requirements
your battery is what powers your car when its running
dc audio recommendations are completely accurate

these are your claims.....now explain them.

I never made any claims only claim I made was that you dont need an alt upgrade for 1kw and I was right and you cant prove me wrong... The rest is you putting words in my mouth grasping for anything to sound intelligent but not working at all

1. is the same as saying big 3 upgrade does nothing
2. you said there are other causes of lights dimming and its not caused directly by voltage drop. refer to post 86 http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68461738&f=136&o=75
3 and 4 i don't feel like finding
5. like 10 times in the thread above. you said dc audios recommendations are all you need to go by.

i'd like to point out this again for you to answer it.

you said dc audio tells you what you NEED but you don't have the high output alternator they say you need.

soo

is dc audio wrong about you needing a high output alternator?

I said flat out you dont need an alt upgrade for 1kw DC doesnt recommend it but they do for the 2k and I even said I could use an alt upgrade in my car so I dont drop any voltage period idle but my system is still solid what part of this dont you get? How many times do I have to say this to you before u get it through ur head? Lights dimming can be caused by bad wiring within the vehicle some vehicles dimming is worse than others its not always a voltage problem what part of that dont you understand? Big 3 does something I've also said this and recommended it but it doesnt do as much as you think mostly only thing you'll notice is less dimming because the power is more consistant but with your system it wont make any difference and/or make break anything what part of that dont you understand? Yes the Manufacturer that makes the leading amplifiers right now are the ones to go by when they say you dont need a alt upgrade to run their 1.2k then you dont, you dont need big 3 either. I dont get what of this you dont understand I've clearly explained all of this MANY times. Sure the optimal thing to do would be big III so the wire is all same size as I like to run 0 ga as much as possible but in the end you dont NEED any of that shit its all dependant on the vehicle and what equipment you have... Good amps take less to run thats why you dont spend your money on dumb shit like alts when you could buy a nice sub/amp in a proper box and push them to their limits with no problems because it's dependable I wouldnt go running 2 Type R's on an audiopipe 3k with shitty electrical because they would blow but I would run 2 DC Level 3's on a DC 2.0K with shitty electrical because it would still be clean and efficient.

You also need to factor in box rise and whether you're tuned properly because those 2 things will fuck you worse than electrical if you're trying to push 2500w and your amps only pusing 2k clean and you only have a dMM to tune it. Just a ton of factors you dont put into play because you arent aware of them you havnt done enough install and been around enough shops to know how this shit works in real time events you just know what it slike on paper which is fine thats cool thats good advice to give but dont go shitting on me for giving my factual experienced advice that actually is real and makes sense and i can prove. In this world your word doesnt mean shit if you cant prove it and so far you havnt proven anything.

Once again you stray away from the subject of you not proving at all why anyone would need an alt upgrade for 1kw of power you have provided nothing and just derailed the topic at hand to try and grasp any little thing to make u seem smarter than me when in reality ur looking stupid. The whole time you've just tried to make me look bad by pointing shit out ive said and twisting it well lets see your reasons for thinking a alt upgrade is needed and lets see you prove it becuase telling me that I need 350a to run a 2kw amp effectively is not at all the case a solid 250a would push my amp @ .5 all day with no voltage drop and only 1 battery but I would need a H.O one because idle would still kill me so thats where batteries come into play. You guys say batteries dont do shit they are reserve for when your alt cant keep up thats why people have large battery banks. That alone shows you know nothing by saying batteries dont do shit lol batteries do more than alternators in some cases I've seen people burp 160's with just batteries and no alt as long as you have th ereserve u can bump awhile.

This post was edited by Incriminator on Aug 18 2013 10:04pm