uh no thats is not true in the slightest. the skill of the person is HUGELY important. i've been beat by competitive riders half my age on bikes with less power than mine because they themselves are better than me. rider skill is more important than the bike in motorcross.

competing with homebuilt for fun in small time competitions is not what i meant and you know it. the entire point was competition only comes from people who have a skill to compete with....car audio doesn't require the owner to have skills at all...you can pay someone else to do all the work for you.

i can go on a justin beiber website and say he has no talent and get laughed off of it to....they'll try the same dumbass argument you are trying "and you think you can do it better?"....whats your point? anyone who thinks car audio competitions require skill from the owner of the stuff is retarded...name 1 thing the owner HAS TO DO THEMSELVES other than show up and say its theirs? hell you don't even have to do that part if you don't want to. the entire thing can be outsourced...this is a fact.

competitive car audio does suck and is boring....honestly you have some terrible comprehension skills.

and for the love of god stop say talking about getting loud...any piece of shit with a handful of money can achieve such a retarded goal. i...unlike you...prefer a balanced setup...not just to get loud like some 16 year old kid hungry for attention.

140db oh my how hard that must be!...way to pick a number that can be done with $500 budget builds and a box a novice could make with an hour of research....really shows how much it takes to impress you.

ok ive been beaten by people half my age with half as expensive equipment so whats your point? you dont seem to have one lol and while i admit YOU CAN PAY someone I DIDNT I did all the hard work I did everything I saved 1000's of dollars shopping and testing and building my own boxes and installing you act like I just paid someone and spend 3000$ on equipment to get where I am point is MOST CAN and they end up spending twice as much as me so to me they lost lol.

and this has nothing to even do with competition bro my ride is DAILY it's not an SPL build but it does slam impressive numbers the whole point is you're bashing my obviously decent system for NO reason and it's annoying as shit why have the name Subwoofer if you're just going to bash on Car Audio? If anyone with money can get loud then do it I'll give you a $500 budget and I expect you to hit atleast a 140 no problem do that and I'll agree with you and bow down lol that includes subs, box, amp, speakers, wire. You act like the shit is easy yet you DONT HAVE A SYSTEm thats like me saying Motocross is simple but not having any proof to show I know otherwise.

IT doesnt matter I dont care about YOUR OPINION just stfu and stop whining you're worst than a female I swear if you don't have positive criticsm or just decent response to my threads just skip it stop trying to troll.

Ive been to a competition and seen 2 13" JLW7's on 4k only hit a 145 lol and he paid 1000's for the equipment/install. While in the same day I slammed a 144 off 2 DC Level 3 15's and under 1200w doing all of the install myself, so tell me again how money buys you a gauranteed victory? That dude was PISSED when he saw his numbers heh.

for the love of god...go take some night classes and learn how to comprehend english or something. the bold is proof you have horrible comprehension skills and i sincerely wish you would go get an education so you can at least have a conversation without making people think they are talking to a 4th grader.

if anything i'm saying you have a very unbalanced setup for daily use. last i recall you were using some low end sony amp and pioneer coaxials to try to keep up with the output of a 18 inch btl....this is just absurd.

$500 for 140db isn't hard. the only real problem would be the electrical system. sa-15+glx1400 and $120 left for box/wiring....i don't know why you say sub and speakers since you are only worried about low end loudness not mids/highs.

you don't care about my opinion...makes sense because there is no way you clearly care enough to reply to it.




do i have to repeat myself again? throwing money at it in the wrong way is clearly going to end badly...throwing money at it by hiring world class competition professionals to design your setup to be the best i can be is however going to make it easy to win.

christ you don't even have to do that...with enough money you can just buy their shit already built and throw it in a car and pretend like you accomplished something.

i dont just care about low end loudness hence the new box im making for 32hz heh im going for low end numbers in a daily setup and making it clean i now have a Crescendo 4 channel and JL c2x's so you obviously havnt seen me in awhile lol i just think you need to stfu and relax and get off me with ur bs im here to give advice take advice and show some of my work not here to argue with a troll its really annoying seeing u in all my topics saying random bs.

if u dont like me then ignore me jesus christ what are u 6?

"im not upset that last 4 posts have been failed troll attempts im just looking for input and a discussion not a troll contest really sick of arguing with you on these forums. and if you don't run a daily driver system then dont bag on other systems you obviously arent capable of making a loud vehicle so why bother giving advice and being a ass about it? All you do is hate and give opinions ive never once seen you show your work and what you can do that makes you worthy of taking said advice.

Why don't you back down and just mind yourself I havn't posted here in awhile because of people like you and Avoid no point when it just starts flame wars and gives me warn %"

this was the post when you started the argument...not me. by your own admission your current box is flawed for what you want yet me saying you made a mistake makes you rage essay. if anyone needs to grow up and stop the arguments...its you.

and as i said long ago last i remember you were running junk mids/highs with a high end sub...this is exactly what i was referencing when i was saying you were focused too much on the bass. its good to see you fixed that problem somewhat but when you keep only referring to how loud your sub is and your video have nothing but bass in it...how exactly am i supposed to assume the mids/highs aren't still vastly underpowered? this is the type of rational thought pattern you need to start using because you keep going off on these wild directions for no reason.

and as i've said countless times now...i don't know you enough to not like you. what i don't like is how you are so confrontational about criticism and instead of having a rational conversation about the criticism...you start insulting people and making stupid claims.

just like the 140db remark you made...instead of just realizing its easily possible for $500 you have to turn it into some sort of argument. do you agree that the proposed sa-15 and glx1400 could hit 140db in a halfway good box? you completely bypassed that entire area of conversation.

all i can say is ur a child bro grow the hell up stop responding and get outta my topics ur quiet nn qq's and excuses in the audio forum. 140db off $500 equipment is not easy go do it posts pics/vids lmk that includes HEADUNIT, AMPLIFIER, WIRES, SUBS, BOX. For $500 good luck (not allowed to buy USED)

ive seen some sub $1000 builds not break a 135-138 lol.

SA-15 = $230
1000w monoblock = $150
Proper Enclosure = $50-75
Wiring = $50
Headunit = $150

ur looking at almost a $700 setup that MIGHT break a 140 tuned daily. ive seen better setups than this not break a 140 on a daily basis lmao.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PKYC_71ELQ

that was the 2 13" W7's on like 2k+ only doing a 141.5 so

my boys 2 CVR 12's on 3k only did a 141, my other buddies 4 12" Type R's on 2500w only did a 140.5
shall I go on? it's all in the install dude... and the frequency its hard making a DAILY setup LOUD on the meter.