Warrantied and everything man... They now sell M2 motors though so prices have increased dramatically the Level 4 is now basically a souped up XL. I have prices on all of them if you send me your email and your zip code just wonder? did you have the 05 models or new XXX's because XXX's rape on the XL's unless you're talking about the new version with overly stiff suspension that blows coils before they even get moving then i dont blame you. Also I'm not trying to sell anything just stating that I'd sell a pair via Facebook if he was interested and threw me a message.


I'll have to get them all I know is they are Grey 2-way Pioneer 6.5's that are about 35-40rms a piece but I give them more like 60rms each and they run it fine and sound loud and clear I just need something that can handle 100rmsper speaker.

This post was edited by Hellish Orc on Feb 5 2012 10:06am

Some new videos my friend took the other day on his 1080p HD 60fps camcorder picks up almost all flex and sounds great check em!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wLVLTglZiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhaov2-Y4ak
Sorry my links are messed up but theres 3 different videos there.

This post was edited by Hellish Orc on Feb 5 2012 10:13am

I assume the older ones because this was a couple years ago. At the time I was still in college and couldnt afford to build the box + a sufficient amp for it.



I hope you're not running that music off of an iPod/iPhone. They cut out the low lows and the highs when its converted into the iPod mp3 format.

If anything, look for .wav files and either burn them to a disc or put them on a flash drive. /e or just put them on an external HD.

This post was edited by Avoid on Feb 5 2012 04:54pm

i play my shit off a ipod touch 4 and it pounds like crazy even with just my alpine type s lol

Untrained ears. MP3 formats cut the top and bottom ends off of music.

Kind of like a hamburger, without the buns. You can still hear the music just fine, but someone with the experience knows and can tell.

This is also why a legit CD from the store (legit album) sounds so much better.

I would love to hear this in person. youtube vids don't do justice lol

It really does when you're using competition grade equipment.

Download a song, put it on an iPod, then play it on a good system.

Then go out and buy that artist's CD, and play the same song. You'll notice it.

yeah cd works good, till ur dash starts shaking and starts skipping the cd lol