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Quote (Hellish Orc @ Feb 10 2012 10:07am)
and I'm confused... Avoid you say you had a XXX 15" you do realize those are one of the better SQ subwoofers on the market? and probably even off half of rated would get twice as loud as those R's? why the hell would you sell it and downgrade I have trouble believing this also did you have the 05 version or the new version? the 05 was their last real good version. Also how the hell did you spend $1000 on 2 R's and some door speakers that's a major rip man.

and about the mp3's cutting low lows you do realize that having a shitty amplifier like the aP1500.1D effects your low low range? and you do realize with an amp that doesnt do rated like the AP and requires 14.4v just to get near with all that dirty signal you're getting fucked more on freq range and loudness than you would be using WAV or MP3's? Jus sayin. So you tell me to get rid of my IPOD I tell your to get rid of that POS AP1500, you tell me to get rid of my Sony XPLOD and Pioneers I tell you to get rid of that Crunch 4 channel and JL's since your have an "SQ" build that equipment would be unacceptable by any SQ standards and since I'm SPL who cares about my mids right? so if anything I'm doing things right you're not... Also again SQ build with a Crunch amplifier and Audiopipe and Type R's? come on... did your Headunit even have 4v preouts/lpf/hpf/sla and expander?

I'm not trying to keep a fight going man but you can't state such claims and talk shit when you yourself have much to learn about product. I'm just saying I'll stick with my IPOD and MP3's and Sony as it's great for SPL with a little SQ thus far, you on the other hand need to rethink your next build if you want true SQ and don't forget to run WAV files on everything and convert your 1,000's of songs to WAV' and need 4 external HDD's to fit them all because you know its worth it.


It was a 12 not a 15, and I had an offer to sell it for a lot more than a paid, so I took it. Call my amp shitty all you want, but your setup only hit .4 dB more than my AP/ATR setup. Yes my Headunit had 4v preouts with 3 sets, it was a KDCx994. My build was SQ enough for a welfare build.

And you cant convert an mp3 to a wav and get the same sound that you would if it was a raw wav. You cant "uncompress" a file.
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Feb 10 2012 01:45pm
first off I hit 2db more than you on half the power with less.distortion and lower tuning bro second of all obviously you can't create the original sound frpm a converted mp3 id rather not buy all my music sorry and ur alpines are same power handling as my 15s if u knew anything power matters more than size for db numbers you should be hitting 145s atleast odd that setup which tells me your install/enclosure are lacking if you knpw as much as you claimed about ud know that ur build was far from sq and can't be had on welfare equipment best subs in the world would sound like garbage on that amp especially how you tuned it thinking it does 1800… like a nub

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Damn double post

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Im just sayinfv u talk about wavs and sq and equipment like you know better if u didn't u wouldn't have used type rs a crunch and an audiopipe and u qwouldnt have tuned ot like a noob like I said with 1800 clipped watts you should be hitting a lot higher numbers than me ithe fact that u say u got only .4 less than me after I showed proof of my 144 plus shows ur just in denial because you know ur setup lacked in all aspects and I paid about the same price worst part is I have basically an spl build and I bet the subs sounded better
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Quote (Hellish Orc @ Feb 10 2012 02:58pm)
Im just sayinfv u talk about wavs and sq and equipment like you know better if u didn't u wouldn't have used type rs a crunch and an audiopipe and u qwouldnt have tuned ot like a noob like I said with 1800 clipped watts you should be hitting a lot higher numbers than me ithe fact that u say u got only .4 less than me after I showed proof of my 144 plus shows ur just in denial because you know ur setup lacked in all aspects and I paid about the same price worst part is I have basically an spl build and I bet the subs sounded better


Its a budget build, and for what I spent, I almost got the same dB as you on my sq setup. You havent heard my system, therefore you cant claim that it didnt sound good.

if you went to any of the autozone shows and sat in my Integra, then you would have heard it. But you havent.
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Feb 10 2012 04:56pm
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Its a budget build, and for what I spent, I almost got the same dB as you on my sq setup. You havent heard my system, therefore you cant claim that it didnt sound good.

if you went to any of the autozone shows and sat in my Integra, then you would have heard it. But you havent.


I guess you're not aware but a 142 -> 144 isn't nearly the same DB it could take you a lot of tweaking/power or hell even switching to 15's just to get that extra 2 db and imo 142db off 1800rms is terrible... You ran more power than i was running alltogether 1800w compared to 800w? also what's your tuning couldn't have been below 35 is you were going for SQ so I'm assuming you didnt play a SLOWED song @ 32hz tuning to get your numbers either. and for the price you paid? you said you paid $1000 for your system I paid less lol and I didn't buy any of it used. and Autozone shows? lmfao! wow why would I go to weak shows? I bet if you sat in my jeep you'd get out with your tail between your legs bruh try going to a Sanford Sound show at the end of july when all the hitters and show cars are there.

and you keep claiming you had an SQ setup what about your setup was SQ please explain? the fact that you have 6 JL's which aren't even good? and a Subpar headunit and crappy amplifiers providing the power? God you're such a noob bro you need to go to CA.com and learn a few things or something. I bet you didnt even have speaker pods or anything I bet half the shit you tell everyone to do you havn't even done yourself.

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Quote (Hellish Orc @ Feb 10 2012 05:56pm)
I guess you're not aware but a 142 -> 144 isn't nearly the same DB it could take you a lot of tweaking/power or hell even switching to 15's just to get that extra 2 db and imo 142db off 1800rms is terrible... You ran more power than i was running alltogether 1800w compared to 800w? also what's your tuning couldn't have been below 35 is you were going for SQ so I'm assuming you didnt play a SLOWED song @ 32hz tuning to get your numbers either. and for the price you paid? you said you paid $1000 for your system I paid less lol and I didn't buy any of it used. and Autozone shows? lmfao! wow why would I go to weak shows? I bet if you sat in my jeep you'd get out with your tail between your legs bruh try going to a Sanford Sound show at the end of july when all the hitters and show cars are there.

and you keep claiming you had an SQ setup what about your setup was SQ please explain? the fact that you have 6 JL's which aren't even good? and a Subpar headunit and crappy amplifiers providing the power? God you're such a noob bro you need to go to CA.com and learn a few things or something. I bet you didnt even have speaker pods or anything I bet half the shit you tell everyone to do you havn't even done yourself.



142.8 vs 143.4

dollar for dollar

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142.8 vs 143.4

dollar for dollar


Wow can't convince the retarded I guess... Go to Sound Resort on facebook.com and look through the pictures theres one of me hitting the 144 ask Steve from NESPL if you don't believe me... You hit a 142 and I hit a 144 plain and simple your installs are weak. dollar for dollar my system smashes yours in every way shape or form.

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Wow can't convince the retarded I guess... Go to Sound Resort on facebook.com and look through the pictures theres one of me hitting the 144 ask Steve from NESPL if you don't believe me... You hit a 142 and I hit a 144 plain and simple your installs are weak. dollar for dollar my system smashes yours in every way shape or form.



Even at that, 1.2dB higher with more money spent. I spent next to nothing for my setup.
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Feb 10 2012 08:16pm
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Even at that, 1.2dB higher with more money spent. I spent next to nothing for my setup.


You said in another topic you spent $1000 on your setup lol... and my product vs yours TermLab numbers mean almost next to nothing could you do hair tricks? did you have bailouts on a daily almost? I move d alot of air and got low hitting a 144 @ 32hz is like hitting a 146 @ 38hz It's a lot harder to get numbers off slowed songs tuned low than it's off a tone or something tuned high with tons of power. I'm really very suprised you didn't blow your type R's just to hit that number. I also bet your subs didn't sound nearly as clear as mine I can promise that actually.

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