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Apr 9 2011 10:37pm
What the infrasonic filter does is exclude the frequencies you cant hear, this is valuable for several reasons. The most important of em imo is that by excluding these frequencies from the output you will reduce the power your amp is wasting to play notes you dont even hear.

Low pass filters will filter out higher frequencies you dont want. By setting the knob at 150 means that you will be blocking any frequencies that fall above 150Hz. High pass works just the opposite.
Input sensitivity is just another way of wording 'gain'
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Apr 9 2011 10:46pm
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What the infrasonic filter does is exclude the frequencies you cant hear, this is valuable for several reasons. The most important of em imo is that by excluding these frequencies from the output you will reduce the power your amp is wasting to play notes you dont even hear.

Low pass filters will filter out higher frequencies you dont want. By setting the knob at 150 means that you will be blocking any frequencies that fall above 150Hz. High pass works just the opposite.
Input sensitivity is just another way of wording 'gain'


So is 120-150 a good setting to work between for LPF? And for Input Sensitivity if turned to the left it's at 5(Max) and to the right it's at 0.2(Min) it means turned all the way to the right it's all the way down?
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So is 120-150 a good setting to work between for LPF? And for Input Sensitivity if turned to the left it's at 5(Max) and to the right it's at 0.2(Min) it means turned all the way to the right it's all the way down?


Depends on the kind of music you listen to, the shape of your car, the type of subs and the type of enclosure you have. Thats why i posted earlier that u kinda have to tune it by ear. with the music u listen to playing. For example if u listen to a lot of hip hop/rap and ur box is ported and tuned to ~40hz you may want to stay close to that frequency to avoid unwanted noise.
Whereas if u listen to a lot of jazz and u have a sealed box, you want to hear every single note from the bass guitar so the frequency should be set pretty high, so it comes down to your own preferences.
Input sensitivity is normally a gate that regulates the input voltage that drives the amp at max output. So in this case, 5v is greater than 0.2v ofc. the higher the input voltage rises, the more noise you gain. This is hardly a problem with monoblocks tho. You can easily find out by turning the knob, if the volume goes up, ur increasing the input voltage.
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Quote (hotdogski @ Apr 9 2011 11:31pm)
Depends on the kind of music you listen to, the shape of your car, the type of subs and the type of enclosure you have. Thats why i posted earlier that u kinda have to tune it by ear. with the music u listen to playing. For example if u listen to a lot of hip hop/rap and ur box is ported and tuned to ~40hz you may want to stay close to that frequency to avoid unwanted noise.
Whereas if u listen to a lot of jazz and u have a sealed box, you want to hear every single note from the bass guitar so the frequency should be set pretty high, so it comes down to your own preferences.
Input sensitivity is normally a gate that regulates the input voltage that drives the amp at max output. So in this case, 5v is greater than 0.2v ofc. the higher the input voltage rises, the more noise you gain. This is hardly a problem with monoblocks tho. You can easily find out by turning the knob, if the volume goes up, ur increasing the input voltage.


The last couple pages have been really helpful, I think I can get it pretty close now. Thanks to those that helped.
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Apr 10 2011 12:22pm
Quote (Cadillac @ Apr 9 2011 11:46pm)
So is 120-150 a good setting to work between for LPF? And for Input Sensitivity if turned to the left it's at 5(Max) and to the right it's at 0.2(Min) it means turned all the way to the right it's all the way down?


That's a lot higher than I would ever put my LPF at.
I have a box tuned to 30hz and I keep my filter at 60-70 and I set it at 70 on my deck as well.
I'm pretty sure the 0.2 means louder, it's been a while since I looked at my amp though..
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That's a lot higher than I would ever put my LPF at.
I have a box tuned to 30hz and I keep my filter at 60-70 and I set it at 70 on my deck as well.
I'm pretty sure the 0.2 means louder, it's been a while since I looked at my amp though..


Yeah 5 was lowest and .2 was highest, got that figured out. I'll try that level on the LPF.

I ran a bass excursion test after tweaking it today, and it clips at the very lowest frequency possible. (If lowest frequency means lowest end bass?)
Is this caused by my gain being too high, my LPF being set wrong, or underpowering?

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Yeah 5 was lowest and .2 was highest, got that figured out. I'll try that level on the LPF.

I ran a bass excursion test after tweaking it today, and it clips at the very lowest frequency possible. (If lowest frequency means lowest end bass?)
Is this caused by my gain being too high, my LPF being set wrong, or underpowering?


Clipping just means that the sound waves reach a certain level, they reach their peak, and then they cut off at the top because they can't get any louder.
It's a lot easier to describe it with a picture..

"Clipping is a form of waveform distortion that occurs when an amplifier is overdriven and
attempts to deliver an output voltage or current beyond its maximum capability. Driving an
amplifier into clipping may cause it to output power in excess of its published ratings."

And yes, it just means that you have it turned up higher than it should be.
Clipping is bad for the amp and the subs.




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Clipping just means that the sound waves reach a certain level, they reach their peak, and then they cut off at the top because they can't get any louder.
It's a lot easier to describe it with a picture..

"Clipping is a form of waveform distortion that occurs when an amplifier is overdriven and
attempts to deliver an output voltage or current beyond its maximum capability. Driving an
amplifier into clipping may cause it to output power in excess of its published ratings."

And yes, it just means that you have it turned up higher than it should be.
Clipping is bad for the amp and the subs.


http://diyaudioprojects.com/Solid/Jean-Hiraga-Le-Monstre/Hiraga-clipping.jpg


So the gain or bass boost could both cause my problem?
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Apr 11 2011 12:28am
Quote (Cadillac @ Apr 11 2011 12:56am)
So the gain or bass boost could both cause my problem?


Yeah, good way to do it is turn your system up to however loud you will have it.
Then turn up your gain most of the way and add bass boost until it doesn't get any louder.
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Apr 11 2011 12:32am
Quote (dr_deranged @ Apr 11 2011 12:28am)
Yeah, good way to do it is turn your system up to however loud you will have it.
Then turn up your gain most of the way and add bass boost until it doesn't get any louder.


I haven't tried this method yet, thanks a lot man.
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