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Mar 1 2012 11:43pm
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I didn't get deep cycle for a reason, because they are ALL in parallel and being constantly charged by the alt, which you would not want with a deep cycle at all.


thus the yellowtops. they are built to take massive punishment as well as being deep cycle. they run race cars with no alternators off of them. i didnt even notice i killed my 200 amp alternator for 3 days. :wallbash:
now i have a neat little multi meter setup i kinda stole the idea from EXOcontralto. It saves alot of time as far as when i need to charge ect.
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Mar 1 2012 11:46pm
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I have run 5 bats all in parallel for years now and its fine, so im going to have to keep it that way and stick with what i got.

The redtops are always being charged when in use, and i never run the system w/o the truck running and alt on.
So deep cycle, again, is not needed in this scenario.


batteries are strictly back up power sources. if your amplifier already uses up all your alternators ability then they aren't getting charged. once you start drawing from the red tops you will have problems because they are designed for short burst usage not long term draw.

red tops are strictly for starting purposes there is no way around it.
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Mar 1 2012 11:47pm
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thus the yellowtops. they are built to take massive punishment as well as being deep cycle. they run race cars with no alternators off of them. i didnt even notice i killed my 200 amp alternator for 3 days.  :wallbash:
now i have a neat little multi meter setup i kinda stole the idea from EXOcontralto. It saves alot of time as far as when i need to charge ect.


I was told the setup i have atm is fine ( with some exceptions to changing the one up front to match) by a member in DB unit who has built 10+ nationally ranked systems and such.

This is also the person who helped with the overall build, so Im pretty confident everything is well.

Back to my original question


I need a AGM charger, but it doesn't mater how big of one it is? Like would a smaller one burn out by charging too many batteries in parallel?


Quote (Subwoofer @ Mar 2 2012 12:46am)
batteries are strictly back up power sources. if your amplifier already uses up all your alternators ability then they aren't getting charged. once you start drawing from the red tops you will have problems because they are designed for short burst usage not long term draw.

red tops are strictly for starting purposes there is no way around it.


again, i was told this by the person above, and a owner of a battery shop here in FL
I made sure getting red tops was not a dumb idea before doing so. And i made sure that i didn't buy Startup batteries that would just be able to start something up.

Thus why i made the purchase on reds instead of blue or yellows

This post was edited by ]GS[ Controller on Mar 1 2012 11:49pm
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no i would think so since low voltage is healthier
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Mar 2 2012 01:34am
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Red tops are notoriously bad at charging they really arent deep cycle :(
Yellow tops ftw
but just put it on a 12 hour trickle charge its best for them low voltage.
you should look into an iragi alernator tho for sure or even two.
i know that with my 2 yellow tops and my 250 amp alternator i can run my 2000 rms sub amp, and my 500/4 jl mids, and punch 45 tweets with lights on and they dont even flicker.
constant 14.1-14.4
once those red tops die, they are dead for good.


That is why I have an optima battery.
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Mar 2 2012 08:26am
Back on topic please...

I still need a confirmed answer..

Is the only thing i need a AGM charger, and a redtop battery to change the one up front to make the setup right?
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Mar 2 2012 10:26am
stop buying reds. put a yellow up front so if u do get drained u can atleast get a jump. i kid u not when reds are drained they do not come back, cannot be jumped cannot be charged.
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stop buying reds. put a yellow up front so if u do get drained u can atleast get a jump. i kid u not when reds are drained they do not come back, cannot be jumped cannot be charged.


Ok again, lets get back on topic and no more spam.
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Mar 2 2012 02:29pm
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Ok again, lets get back on topic and no more spam.


its not spam. if you are using more power than your alternator produces you then start sucking on the batteries. once this starts you will have voltage drop issues and once you drop a red top below 8 volts its pretty well damaged.

optima has went so far to discourage improper usage that car audio use voids the warranty for the red tops. http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_products/warranty/postFeb.php#red1
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Mar 2 2012 10:06pm
Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Mar 2 2012 01:30pm)
Ok again, lets get back on topic and no more spam.


Sorry bro, not trying to spam. As far as charging battery banks go i would just rotate on a trickle which battery u charge. This should prevent having a bad egg slip by and over working the others as well. how do you have the bank setup? with cable or a bar?
Oh and get a battery isolator if you dont want to swap all the time. You dont wanna over charge a good battery either and burn it out.

This post was edited by Beau on Mar 2 2012 10:09pm
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