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Feb 4 2012 04:24pm
Quote (ThePwnEffect @ Feb 4 2012 03:14pm)
I'm confused by the 2 separate amps?
The speakers that you're saying 2 sets and 1 set, do those come in pairs or single speakers? I'm forced to assume pairs since you're having me buy them as "sets" so the T142 is $69.88 for 2 speakers, correct?
Am I an idiot or is that 6 speakers? Do I have 6 speakers? Lol.
It seems that those "wiring kits?" have some of the same things in them, is this correct? Do I need both of the "install bay" kits?
Is this correct what I have added? http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7554/58506910.png
Sorry I'm so dumb when it comes to this stuff, haha.


They come as pairs, the 4 channel amp is meant just for the speakers (Each door = 1 channel) and the mono amp (1 channel) is meant for the subwoofers.

I'd get a better 4 channel amp though, like a P400-4 or a T400-4, the R400-4 is their least expensive series. When you go up in series you get better crossovers, better quality, and better sound.
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Feb 4 2012 05:58pm
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They come as pairs, the 4 channel amp is meant just for the speakers (Each door = 1 channel) and the mono amp (1 channel) is meant for the subwoofers.

I'd get a better 4 channel amp though, like a P400-4 or a T400-4, the R400-4 is their least expensive series. When you go up in series you get better crossovers, better quality, and better sound.


I gotcha now.
I'm a bit confused as to what components have RCA jacks, and where they plug in to, is there a place I can read up on this at?
Like the HU has RCA pre outs, and the amps do, but where does this all go? To the speakers?
Between the two, P400-4 and the T400-4, which would you say is better? Obviously one is more pricy than the other, but will any of that really matter to me?

Also, would you go with the amp he picked off audioque? or would you use something different?
Keep in mind that my total cost needs to be as close to $1500 as possible, this includes partial cost of a battery and possibly a stronger alternator (if necessary).
I'm not a real big audio buff, as you can tell, I just want a good system that I'm not going to be disappointed with when I learn more about audio.
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Feb 4 2012 08:39pm
i would suggest a 150-200 amp alternator. this might be as simple as grabbing a used one off a suburban in the same year range.

the rca wires go from the head unit to the amps then you run speaker wire from the amps to the speakers.

look into optima yellow tops for a battery.

the 4 channel amp is up to you but keep in mind a good battery is going to be $200 and the alternator is going to be $75-300 probably. i would call scrap yards about an alternator before looking into aftermaket to save money.
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Feb 4 2012 08:43pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Feb 4 2012 09:39pm)
i would suggest a 150-200 amp alternator. this might be as simple as grabbing a used one off a suburban in the same year range.


Probably will, all the 4.3 accessories fit onto the 305,327,and 350 vortecs so I don't see why theirs wouldn't fit on the 4.3. I think I might go snatch a alternator off a burb now :O
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Feb 4 2012 09:20pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Feb 4 2012 10:39pm)
i would suggest a 150-200 amp alternator. this might be as simple as grabbing a used one off a suburban in the same year range.

the rca wires go from the head unit to the amps then you run speaker wire from the amps to the speakers.

look into optima yellow tops for a battery.

the 4 channel amp is up to you but keep in mind a good battery is going to be $200 and the alternator is going to be $75-300 probably. i would call scrap yards about an alternator before looking into aftermaket to save money.


I don't know if I've got the time or money to invest into that kind of work, though it's not a lot, searching for an alternator which I obviously know nothing about is going to be a bit trivial.
What's the best route for me to take right now to make sure my vehicle can handle the current setup you've prepared for me?
Whether it be removing or downgrading something, I'm okay with that.
Like I've said, I'm not an audio buff, and I honestly don't know the first thing about audio, so anything better than my stock system will be okay.
I also did say that I don't want to be disappointed in what I bought if I ever learn more about the stuff.
Is there an in between stage here? lol.

I'm sure I could get the alternator / battery if I really wanted to, but I'm just wanting a good system for more than casual listening, I'm tired of my shitty quality factory system, and I have the money to invest in something decent.

I'm sorry that I'm allover the place here, I just don't want to dish out more than I can handle and then end up regretting the whole thing.

Would the setup that you've provided be able to be run off my current alternator?
I'm not opposed to a better battery, but without upgrading the alternator, will this near-top of the line battery be worth my money invested?
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Feb 4 2012 09:29pm
optimas are always worth it no matter your situation. they last many many many times longer than old dry cell designs. they are a higher initial investment but you'll spend more replacing cheap batteries while the optima would still be perfectly fine that far down the line.

downgrading the subs is the easiest solution. right now they are loud enough to probably make you get out of your car at full strength.

finding a less powerful subwoofer setup isn't hard but if you could get your alternator information i could make sure its going to be fine.

right now i'm thinking
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_34873_Rockford-Fosgate-P2-2X12-11P2-2X12.html?from=1-49
http://www.audioque.com/AQ750-Amplifier_p_46.html
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Feb 4 2012 09:43pm
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optimas are always worth it no matter your situation. they last many many many times longer than old dry cell designs. they are a higher initial investment but you'll spend more replacing cheap batteries while the optima would still be perfectly fine that far down the line.

downgrading the subs is the easiest solution. right now they are loud enough to probably make you get out of your car at full strength.

finding a less powerful subwoofer setup isn't hard but if you could get your alternator information i could make sure its going to be fine.

right now i'm thinking
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item%5F34873%5FRockford-Fosgate-P2-2X12-11P2-2X12.html?from=1-49
http://www.audioque.com/AQ750-Amplifier%5Fp%5F46.html


Okay, being that I know nothing about cars, how do I know which battery to buy?
Where do I buy it from? (which website) - or do retail stores carry them?
I'll try to get this information in a few days, I don't have the vehicle here or I'd attempt to look myself, it's at my dads waiting to be fixed.
I'll have him take a look at it when I'm there next time.
The links to audioque never work and I have to search for the product based on the link description, that's annoying, lol.
Is there any reason why you chose that amp over an RF one?
I'm weird about brands and stuff, and I like to match the brands with each other, obviously I'm not going to say no to something just because of the brand, but it does bother me, haha.
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Feb 4 2012 09:49pm
AQ has the best amps for the money for the most part. for a similar spec rockford you are looking at $100-150 more because they are a mainstream brand.

we can always go with AQ subs if you feel like putting in more work for a custom box.

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Feb 4 2012 10:32pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Feb 4 2012 11:49pm)
AQ has the best amps for the money for the most part. for a similar spec rockford you are looking at $100-150 more because they are a mainstream brand.

we can always go with AQ subs if you feel like putting in more work for a custom box.


Okay, I guess I'll go with one of their amps.
I'd rather this be as simple as possible, so I'll stick with the RF subs, unless AQ has a pre-built box like that one.

Am I missing anything?

+The amp you just posted.

If I was going to order all of this right now, would you have anything else to change? I'm not saying that I'm going to, just asking.


This post was edited by ThePwnEffect on Feb 4 2012 10:37pm
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Feb 5 2012 12:24am
the only other thing you might want to consider is some new battery terminals to go with it. it will make it a lot easier when you do the big 3.
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