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Sep 20 2012 12:21pm
I just got a kicker ZX.2500 amplifier

What kind of subs to push?

1x 18?

2x 15?

4x 12?

6x 12?

I'm thinkin 2x 15's LmK for SQ
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Sep 20 2012 01:07pm
If you're wanting SQ go with higher end 10's
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Sep 20 2012 08:47pm
Fifteens don't usually produce good sound, they are meant to be loud.
Do you know if this amp is 1-ohm stable or not? I can't seem to find the info online.
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Sep 20 2012 09:45pm
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Fifteens don't usually produce good sound, they are meant to be loud.
Do you know if this amp is 1-ohm stable or not? I can't seem to find the info online.


while it would void the warranty you can run them @1ohm with a good electrical system from what i've read. the issue going below manufacturer specs is you are going to have to clamp it and see its output @1ohm otheriwse you can't buy the proper subwoofer to match it.
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Sep 21 2012 09:00am
I originally wanted to go 1 ohm with an amp like DC or Audio-Q...


But i got a kicker 2500 for $300 bucks and thats just rediculoud O.o

So basically now instead of 2x dual 4 ohm subs... I'll be going 2x dual voice coil 2 ohm subs

Going to be getting 15's

And by getting SQ that means "Circles" instead of Squared

It means better speakers ect but you can be rediculous loud with SQ with 15's is my point and I'm not going to stack 10's i'd rather stack 12's if i'm goint to be doing 4-6-8 number of subs

LmK what kind of subs i should get?

Thinkin i can get C V X's cheap...

I can get an 18" DC XL for $450

I can get 2x 15" lvl 4's (1400 rms each) for slightly more then the 18" at like 500-600 price range

and 12's are even cheaper at around $25-75 each O.o would stack those over 10's all day




Really tempted to go 4x cvx 12's... If i were to go 12's i'd prolly got CVX's or CVR's if really bein cheap



CVX at 12" is pretty rediculous in comparison to a CVR that takes 400 at 12" and only takes 500 at 15" for CVR
when compared to 12" CVX pushing 750 rms at 12" it shows that a 12" CVX can out-perform a 15" CVR



not sure what finished project will be but its pretty much complete



140 amp alternator
Yellow Top Altima
Kenwood DDX.516 Double-Din
Kicker 2500 amplifier
2x ???? 15" subs
2x components added to back seat
2x mid-bass added in front seat if room

will add a mids and highs 4 channel amp later... and will keep my stock 4x speakers in vehicle running off radio's amplifier



Pretty much it LmK if you think i did well... P.S thats the highest my car would let me upgrade alternator so @ 140 amps even with second battery about 2500-3000 watts is max

will add mids and highs amp later
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Sep 22 2012 03:42pm
single 18 tune < 30, whats the vehicle?
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Sep 22 2012 07:18pm
a couple of things.

you're cars electrical system can't handle a 2500 watt amp.
going straight to a high powered sub and keeping stock mids/highs is a complete waste of time.
you are going to need to install sound deadening material in the car.
multiple subs are almost always worse price/performance ratio than 1 sub. don't run 4 low end subs when you could run 1 high end sub.

and before this turns into a "yes i can run 3000 watts".

amperage=watts/voltage.

2500/14.4=174amps. your car is probably going to need 30amps so that leaves 110amps of output to run 174+ amps of draw. its simply not going to work.
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Sep 22 2012 08:40pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Sep 22 2012 09:18pm)
a couple of things.

you're cars electrical system can't handle a 2500 watt amp.
going straight to a high powered sub and keeping stock mids/highs is a complete waste of time.
you are going to need to install sound deadening material in the car.
multiple subs are almost always worse price/performance ratio than 1 sub. don't run 4 low end subs when you could run 1 high end sub.

and before this turns into a "yes i can run 3000 watts".

amperage=watts/voltage.

2500/14.4=174amps. your car is probably going to need 30amps so that leaves 110amps of output to run 174+ amps of draw. its simply not going to work.


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Sep 23 2012 04:55pm
All I saw was that huge list of Kicker this and CVR that.
I would never spend my money on any Kicker sub, they sound like garbage and lack quality.
You could get something much better for the money any day of the week.


Quote (killathequick @ Sep 21 2012 10:00am)
2x components added to back seat
2x mid-bass added in front seat if room

will add a mids and highs 4 channel amp later... and will keep my stock 4x speakers in vehicle running off radio's amplifier


Pretty much it LmK if you think i did well... P.S thats the highest my car would let me upgrade alternator so @ 140 amps even with second battery about 2500-3000 watts is max

will add mids and highs amp later


Components aren't for the back seat, they are for the front. You won't hear the tweeters if they are behind your ears.
With this sort of power coming from the trunk you won't be able to hear non-amplified mid-range. Period.
What kind of car do you have?
Even at 140amps and a second battery I doubt you would be able to pull 2500 solid RMS for more than half a minute.


Quote (killathequick @ Sep 21 2012 10:00am)
I can get an 18" DC XL for $450


That sounds good man, Or you could drop a grand on a DD Z series. :thumbsup:
There are a lot of great deals in the classified section on this car audio forum that I'm on. PM me for link.
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Sep 25 2012 04:16am
The vehicle is a 2002 Mazda Protege 5


It's a Hatch Back vehicle and the seats drop down if need be to make room for whatever I could possibly imagine for space


With the seats up i have about 7 cubic feet of space to work with and be legal at window line...

Could potentially "Fit" 2x 18" subs but even at sealed still very undersized box so if i went 18" would definately be ported to take advantage of space

Or...

2x 15" subwoofers ... Could get DC lvl 4's at 1400 rms each ... or 2x cheap CVX for prolly $100 each so $200 total vs paying $525 for 2x DC lvl 4's

Basically I'd rather go 4x 15" CVX then 2x DC lvl 4's ... but thats not the point either =/

I "Understand" the whole power ratio thing... Thats why amp will be at 3/4... Always better to have a nicer amp and turn it down a lil to run more effeciant at 80% power ect

The car can push about 1800-2200 rms no problem so its good to have a 2500 rms amplifier either way i paid $300 for amp i think i got a good deal vs $500-600 for Audio Q or DC Audio or Sundown


So pretty much setup just waiting on radio in the mail

140 amp alternator
Altima Yellow Top or Blue Top battery under the hood
Kenwood DDX.516 Double-Din
Kicker 2500 Monoblock

Components??? - I have an Alpine 300 RMS 4 channel amplifier to throw on this later

Subwoofer? 1x18 DC XL ... 2x 15 DC lvl 4 (1400 RMS) ... 4x 12" Kicker CVX

Really thinkin I should Add a Battery in the back... But dont think its necessary I'm not planning to "Bump" all day long ... Thats why i'm not too woried about power supply and charging it will be fine


LmK thoughts or would like some assistance on making a box for 2x 15 or 1x 18...

Most likely going 2x 15 for now and will upgrade later or add more 15's

Still curious though if "Surface Area is King" wouldnt the 4x cvx be louder? they could take up to 3000 RMS wich is rediculous imo for $250 for a set of 4x
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