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Mar 19 2011 07:15pm
Discuss,


I voted Djoko
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Mar 20 2011 02:22am
Rafa will win unless injuries happen.
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Mar 20 2011 08:40am
Djoko is really in great shape lately :) voted for him. He's annoying on the court but he is a very funny guy off-court so I think he's great!
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Mar 21 2011 02:03pm
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Mar 21 2011 03:41pm
Rafa !! but if we say.. 1.st player ! THEN Federer !!!!!!
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Mar 22 2011 05:39am
Wow great play by Djoko! :) It's horrible to say but.. as long as Nadal didn't win it I'm happy :)
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Mar 24 2011 03:17am
djoko looking fr3shh
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Mar 30 2011 01:49am
I love both of them, along with Federer of course, but both players have drama in terms of injury claims up the ass. I'm not saying they can't get injured, but I can't remember the last time Nadal hasn't made a huge drama scene about how he is so terribly injured after he loses, and reminds people in interviews about his inyuries (the way he says it, lawl) but come on, he can't be as seriously injured as he makes it seem each time. I remember he claimed he was injured when he lost to Monaco a few years ago, and then went into New York with no problems. A real injury takes a month to fully heal, not one week as Mr. Wolverine Nadal makes it seem.

Then we know all of Novak's on court antics, most recently the appearance of the one eye'd pirate against Nadal in London last year.

E: Seriously though, either they have something wrong with them mentally if they (or their coaches/physios) can't figure out how to not get consistently injured (if all the claims are true) or I have no idea what is going on.

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Quote (Godest @ Mar 30 2011 03:49am)
I love both of them, along with Federer of course, but both players have drama in terms of injury claims up the ass.  I'm not saying they can't get injured, but I can't remember the last time Nadal hasn't made a huge drama scene about how he is so terribly injured after he loses, and reminds people in interviews about his inyuries (the way he says it, lawl) but come on, he can't be as seriously injured as he makes it seem each time.  I remember he claimed he was injured when he lost to Monaco a few years ago, and then went into New York with no problems.  A real injury takes a month to fully heal, not one week as Mr. Wolverine Nadal makes it seem.

Then we know all of Novak's on court antics, most recently the appearance of the one eye'd pirate against Nadal in London last year.

E:  Seriously though, either they have something wrong with them mentally if they (or their coaches/physios) can't figure out how to not get consistently injured (if all the claims are true) or I have no idea what is going on.


i'd have to say nadal is a lot worse in this regard, and at this point it's definitely tarnishing his legacy. the man is ALWAYS ailing or gesturing to someone else as soon as hes getting beaten by someone hes an obvious favorite against, whether it be haase or petzschner at wimbledon, or ferrer at the AO (or the USO back in 07 i think it was?), soderling at the french, garcia-lopez in thailand, melzer in shanghai, getting bageled by lukas lacko, losing to davydenko anywhere.. it just gets really old after awhile, and more often than not it's usually rafa just not having his A game, or his opponent bringing out the A+ game and actually maintaining it for a period of time


i feel like with djokovic you can usually EASILY see his level drop, a few games pass, and then he shows that hes being affected by something.. with nadal more often it's after his opponent makes him uncomfortable, and along with uncle tonis antics it begins to border on gamesmanship
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i'd have to say nadal is a lot worse in this regard, and at this point it's definitely tarnishing his legacy. the man is ALWAYS ailing or gesturing to someone else as soon as hes getting beaten by someone hes an obvious favorite against, whether it be haase or petzschner at wimbledon, or ferrer at the AO (or the USO back in 07 i think it was?), soderling at the french, garcia-lopez in thailand, melzer in shanghai, getting bageled by lukas lacko, losing to davydenko anywhere.. it just gets really old after awhile, and more often than not it's usually rafa just not having his A game, or his opponent bringing out the A+ game and actually maintaining it for a period of time


i feel like with djokovic you can usually EASILY see his level drop, a few games pass, and then he shows that hes being affected by something.. with nadal more often it's after his opponent makes him uncomfortable, and along with uncle tonis antics it begins to border on gamesmanship


Nadal just did this the other day against Berdych calling for the trainer when Berdych was getting on a roll. I swear, hardcore Nadal fans (who don't like tennis/ATP only Rafa) will claim it is gamesmanship or that Rafa really gets injured, but that is horseshit. But yes, against Petzschner during Wimbledon, it was hard to watch, I felt really bad for Philipp. If Nadal really has it in his brain that he thinks he requires a trainer, then he really has something wrong with him up there. Just because you don't feel 100% or aren't hitting perfectly doesn't mean you need a trainer. Injury timeouts are to be used not abused. Nadal clearly seems to be using it in order to disrupt his opponents' rhythm.

Nothing to take away from Nadal's actual game, but that is seriously a very annoying and certainly tarnishing, as you said, aspect of his career.

This post was edited by Godest on Apr 3 2011 03:15pm
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