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Feb 11 2020 12:53pm
https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Teemo




More shrooms:
BASE RECHARGE: 30 / 25 / 20 SEC
rank2, 20%more then rank1 (30/25)
rank3, 25%more then rank2 (25/20)
66.67%more from 40%cdr (100/60)
33.3%more from Ultimate hunter 5/5 (100/75)

126%more maximum mana from Luden and manaflow
100%more mana regen from Shard of True Ice
88%more manaregen from manaflow band when near zero mana, with a luden echo


Added damage:
BASE TOTAL MAGIC DAMAGE: 200 / 325 / 450 (+ 50% AP)

Cheap shot does 31damage at lvl11 and 41damage at lvl16
Cheap shot does 9.3%increased Base damage
4sec cooldown makes it function at 100%hitrate

Arcane comet does 71 and 92damage at lvl 11/16 (13sec/9.4sec cooldown), hitrate bigger at lvl16, since 50%mushroom slow
+/-
71*0.8cooldown*0.7hitrate=40added damage at lvl11===>12.3%increased damage
92*0.9*0.8=66added damage at lvl16===>14.67%increased damage
20%AP ratio arcane comet*0.8cooldown*0.7hitrate=11.2%AP ratio added on mushroom===>22.4%increased AP ratio on shroom
avarage of 17%increased base damage on mushrooms from Arcane Comet

Liandry:
2300target life (teemo at lvl16 with Liandry)*14.5%targets maximum life as burn damage = 333damage ===>74%increased base damage at lvl16
1700target life at lvl11=====>76%increased base damage at lvl11

Luden echo:
100damage*0.8cooldown=80damage====>17.7%increased damage at rank3 and 24.6%increased base damage at rank2
8%added AP ratio ===>16%increased AP ratio


More damage:
Arcane = 11.2%AP ratio added
Luden = 8%AP ratio added
Deathcap = 40%more AP =/=requires 27.68%added AP ratio (20%added AP ratio without luden/arcane)

magic penetration:
38.5magic resist on Teemo
can have +8from runes
Sion have 53.35magic resist
Spirit visage is 55magic resist

100/138.5Teemo resist=72.2%incoming damage
100/(100+38.5*0.6void staff-18sorc shoes)=95.2%incoming damage = 31.8%more damage against glasscannons from mpen

100/210 = 47.6%incoming damage
100/(100+110*0.6-18)=67.6%incoming damage = 41.9%more damage against tanks from mpen


old topic:
The Damage > How Its Done
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81966179&f=133

So in a few min, i need 2 examples,
1)howmatch damage i loose when drop deathcap (25%on first sight, but it may be 19%afterall if include cheap shot atc)
2)howmatch damage i loose when drop Luden and get a tank cdr item (12%less i gess)
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Feb 26 2020 10:11pm


New runes for the new Heimerdonk!


Maximum Mana items pretty bad on Heimerdonk!
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Since pure cannon AP Heimerdonk not the best Heimerdonk!
Then a luden is not super bad, but its bad to rush and loose Ryla slow, and most important, you not need the 20cdr, if you plan on building a warmog
And mana regen from Luden mana is not that huge when multiplied with manaflow band, its not Teemo, Heimer needs more mana sustain then Teemo
Every 1000mana only provides 10flat mana regen when its missing mana, thats simular to 50%mana regen aka, 250gold value
However a bigger mana pool then the verry low base mana pool is required, even if have 150%mana regen redemption
Ontop, Heimer not have that massive benefits from other runes, like ultimate hunter on Teemo does
Verry important aswell, gold value in AP/life you not want in mana item, you want thouse spelleffects when invest into AP-life

makes 750max mana from runes, and 1%missing mana regenerated, verry stronk
thats 100%more maximum mana and 50%more mana regen from runes
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most of time you have 50%mana regen items (forbidden idol)
if runes are fully stacked,
you get +/- 100%more maximum mana
you get 75%base regen from manaflow band and 1500missing mana
so instead of 150%total mana regen you get 225%, witch is 50%more regen from runes in the midgame
if complete redemption, its 250%regen without runes, and gained 30%more mana regen from runes (325/250)
if not build forbidden idol, 75%more regen


37%cdr pretty stronk!
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you need to cc (q+w to slow and granades)
you need to tank (q+qr)
you need to poke (w+spelleffects)
you need to run (spam q to trigger passive)
you need to blow towers (q+qr)

45cdr+ultimate hunter is pretty nice aswell, but a bit overdone on Heimer, biggest reason are:
other runes nice, arcane comet verry welcome on TankHeimer
And, you can have 3 q up and shooting, when have 3q up stored aswell, (not that it happens that often)
Teemo just have a better storage system on r then Heimer have on q
Heimer no storage system on w or r
Heimer likes to stump 1 lane, instead of roaming massive for ultimate hunter or ravenous hunter stacks
45cdr hits in verry lategame if you want Ryla asap
w-cooldown is insane low, after max it first

my 37%cdr setup, not even cost alot of gold: kindle gem+forbidden idol


Verry Big Damage!
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Your turret slows, therefore you stun hits more often, and your 5rockets to trigger lazer hits more often
Your double lazer hits more often, if you in enemy face when tank
More lazers, when walk fast
Best 1v5 poke damage:
138Liandry damage from 1 hit / 0.35AP ratio from 1 turret = 394AP required to replace Liandry damage, if turret shoot a champ only ones
138/0.55AP ratio on rockets = 250AP required to make rockets do Liandry passive damage, if hit only 1 rocket
Gathering storm and arcane comet make Turret basic attack be decent when enter the lategame, when all gold goes into tank

More enemy champs is more damage! This Heimer likes Teamfights!


Biggest speed, biggest tank, and most cc
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Heimerdonk not even needs to aa, therefore deadmans-momentum-60movement speed, is pretty big, it gets multiplied with 20%movementspeed Heimerpassive, and the Ryla slow
340base+55fast swiftniss+60deadmans*1.2cloose to turret/0.8enemie is slowed = 683 speed
Compared to 340+45=385
77%more safty from mobility
Mobility is verry important to trigger warmog passive
You get jumped, bursted, and cc-ed, therefore tank allow to stay at 50%hp and activate mobility after

Heimerdonk turrets tank more then Tank-champions on itself
q=slow+global perma taunt untill facetanked+20%morespeed
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