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Nov 22 2019 09:10pm
is actually relevant now. dragon control = ezpz game.
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Nov 23 2019 04:39am
yes but ivern is not a drake killer
only Daizy can tank drake a little, even with it, Ivern still a hard time

Probably malzahar support can jolo drake at lvl3
Or zac, can do it at lvl3


my Teemo toplane, its pretty good for drake controll, since it creates a 4vs3 (5vs4) in the river.
Its alot better then pre-patch, to roam to drake over and over as toplane Teemo.



Anywhy, i lost my first game yesterday as Heimerdonk, when we had 4drakes (ocean)
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Nov 23 2019 03:56pm
Quote (Greater @ Nov 22 2019 10:10pm)
is actually relevant now. dragon control = ezpz game.


sure, works to cheese the first 1-2 dragons; but what happens after you start losing fights for objective control in mid-game?

the individual drake buffs have been generally tuned down to balance the addition of 4th drake + dragon soul (think ocean, infernal scaling vs. season 9)

losing the first two isn't as impactful as you think
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Nov 23 2019 06:33pm
Quote (MidWinter @ 23 Nov 2019 16:56)
sure, works to cheese the first 1-2 dragons; but what happens after you start losing fights for objective control in mid-game?

the individual drake buffs have been generally tuned down to balance the addition of 4th drake + dragon soul (think ocean, infernal scaling vs. season 9)

losing the first two isn't as impactful as you think



True. The extra range on him and the fact that garen is fuckin po at this point has been good for Ivern. If I get synergie with a garen or Darius top it’s fucking gg. Had a 4v5 that lost late game cuz didn’t have the fifth but if hit my q, on someone with garen near it’s an easy pick. I just sheild, run in front of whoever I stun, let garen silence and do his then then stun again. Plus daisy focus on adc is like having another champ
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Quote (Greater @ Nov 23 2019 07:33pm)
True. The extra range on him and the fact that garen is fuckin po at this point has been good for Ivern. If I get synergie with a garen or Darius top it’s fucking gg. Had a 4v5 that lost late game cuz didn’t have the fifth but if hit my q, on someone with garen near it’s an easy pick. I just sheild, run in front of whoever I stun, let garen silence and do his then then stun again. Plus daisy focus on adc is like having another champ


that soudns pretty fun
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