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May 20 2019 02:44am
Hi all, I'm trying to get better on a secondary role (main jung, learning toplane).

Got D4 playing toplane but I feel I need to stop for a bit and get some further knowledge.

Is there any main top D1+ or any useful site/video?
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May 20 2019 02:47am
I could spec some of your games here
master s5 6 7 main mid jng top
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May 22 2019 07:46am
the Duty of toplane have shifted a little

+/- 1 Year ago, toplane required to carry harder
2years ago, you could simply pick a melee toplane full tank,get only a 50%cs score, loose 1ste turret, and still contribute in your teamcomposition

1year ago, things changed, and your required to cs-better, carry harder, and 1vs1 win duels, able to splitpush and join all teamfights.
reason for this:
trollpick midlanes with no waveclear after 14min mark, combined with ezreal adc
non meta botlanes, brand, teemo, pyke, the outcome of botlane is 1sided
jgler, alot of them keep spamming kills at botlane, ignore objectives, and keep huntering kills on targets like the enemie support


the last 2 months, toplane is getting more ezz, and responsibilities start to shift again to the botlane/jgl/mid.
you can finaly go CoCzilla Teemo top again, loose lane and win game
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May 22 2019 02:13pm
Play kayle.
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May 22 2019 03:23pm
anything in particular you're looking to improve?
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May 26 2019 06:04am
Quote (ofrolive @ May 22 2019 11:23pm)
anything in particular you're looking to improve?


Well, I could state my current status :

- Farming : good early/mid/late (9 cs/min average)
- Map presence : good early/mid/late (66% of my tp's have great impact)
- Duelling : bad early, good mid/late
- Vision : bad early/mid/late, I'm week to enemy ganks at level 1-5
- Wave management : very good, I usually manage to setup the lane exactly as I plan

So basically I'd like to improve duelling/vision on topside

Main ATM : Camille

This post was edited by NomadJe on May 26 2019 06:05am
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May 26 2019 06:06am
Quote (Tommyvv @ May 22 2019 03:46pm)
the Duty of toplane have shifted a little

+/- 1 Year ago, toplane required to carry harder
2years ago, you could simply pick a melee toplane full tank,get only a 50%cs score, loose 1ste turret, and still contribute in your teamcomposition

1year ago, things changed, and your required to cs-better, carry harder, and 1vs1 win duels, able to splitpush and join all teamfights.
reason for this:
trollpick midlanes with no waveclear after 14min mark, combined with ezreal adc
non meta botlanes, brand, teemo, pyke, the outcome of botlane is 1sided
jgler, alot of them keep spamming kills at botlane, ignore objectives, and keep huntering kills on targets like the enemie support


the last 2 months, toplane is getting more ezz, and responsibilities start to shift again to the botlane/jgl/mid.
you can finaly go CoCzilla Teemo top again, loose lane and win game


True, most of times I force roams / counterjungling not to snowball but to compensate lacks of macro in my team.
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May 26 2019 01:31pm
Quote (NomadJe @ May 26 2019 08:04am)
Well, I could state my current status :

- Farming : good early/mid/late (9 cs/min average)
- Map presence : good early/mid/late (66% of my tp's have great impact)
- Duelling : bad early, good mid/late
- Vision : bad early/mid/late, I'm week to enemy ganks at level 1-5
- Wave management : very good, I usually manage to setup the lane exactly as I plan

So basically I'd like to improve duelling/vision on topside

Main ATM : Camille


Are you looking for VOD review or live coaching? or both. 1 hour session or longer?
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May 26 2019 01:43pm
Server?
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May 27 2019 03:19am
Maybe watch some of LS's coaching Bwipo toplane or other top challengers.
Learning alot from that - but personal coaching is prolly best.
GL!
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