Quote (Tentacle @ Jul 24 2024 01:23pm)
kda isnt a huge part of league.
hell even dmg is secondary to the actual goal.
what you need to do is get the kills and/or high dmg when it actually matters.
in the first post you said that usually help go get objectives and neutral camps like dragon/grubs, which is good.
then later you say that its your teams fault for 3v5 drag and dying. ideally, you wouldnt have to have pinged it. you could have avoided dying (i asusme thats why you pinged) or you could have managed your waves better to have given yourself lane prio to make them lose out on a ton of gold and exp for not staying in lane with you. but being a mid laner there really isnt any reasonw hy you shouldnt be there for those fights.
tl;dr kda and dmg doesnt mean shit if you dont make an impact. climbing is about consistency. if you consistently play well then even having a 51% WR would lead you to climbing.
i just checked a video of a pro who talks about kda, and he confirmed what i thought...
if you're playing for exemple an assassin mid with no crowd control for his team and not very fast as taking turrets and stuff for exemple (like naafiri,talon,zed, etc) your KDA DEFINITLY MATTER ALOT. Because your whole purpose in the match is to disrupt their scaling champs (aka adc but ofc not only adc...) so that they are dead often during early/midgame laning phase and early during teamfights... so if youre playing naafiri for exemple and youre fucking 3-8-2 youre not at all doing your job
meanwhile if you're playing lets say ziggs and youre 3-8-2, you might still be 1v9ing even with such a bad kda because most of those deaths might have been you giving up your life to get innibs and stuff... or forcing several enemies to back to defend while your team secure baron/drag/etc its worth dying on ziggs to get lets say 1 turret+ forcing 2-3enemies to back for you while your team are all 4 on baron/drag...
so i agree KDA isnt everything on alot of champs... but on some champs kda is nearly everything specially in soloQ... ofcourse its kdA not just kd, because u dont need to get the lasthit for you to have good kill participation eh
also total damage done isnt a great indicator in some scenarios... like if youre toplane vs a mundo and u got most damage done in the game but u killed mundo only 1-2times in the whole game and he freefarmed and regended everything youve dealt to him... your 'effective usefull dmg' was low af
Also, here imma ask a really really genuine question because i want the input of some of you 'higher ranks than me guys' on this...
lets say for exemple im playing naafiri mid (cause i play it alot so imma give an exemple that i face often)
lets say i roam bot because i see the enemies are being greedy and most likely gonna tower dive my teamates (like lets say the enemy jungler is there too so its 2v3 in favour of the enemy) and i decide to roam bot even if lets say its not 100% good timing for me (like i wasnt able to shove before or whatever you know what i mean? like its throwing my mid lane timer off for potential to help the botlane ALOT)
now lets say we end up trading 1 for 2 (we lose our support lets say and 2 enemies die and the last one manage to survive but has to back on low hp lets say)
so in that scenario its me and the adc left alive bot, lets say now that the 2 kills on the enemies were gotten on my bot lane (aka i didnt get either of those 2 kills gold for myself for roaming) and theres a wave next to us...
lets say i lost my mid wave coming bot to gank too... and now im low hp and have to back... and i see im missing 150g for an item (even if its a pickaxe for exemple,whatver)
am i 'toxic' for taxing the wave in front of my adc?? when i legit just prevented a enemy successfull dive and got him a kill or 2??? but i need to make it worthwhile for me so i can powerspike cause im an assassin right?
i do that alot... some people dont complain and even thank me for the gank after i taxe a wave but some people i will get them 2kills AND save them from dying, steal 4-5cs before tping and they will spamping and run it down say mid gap x9
This post was edited by NumbSouls on Jul 25 2024 03:45am