Quote (OjjiLol @ Jul 1 2011 09:38am)

meta game, lol. fucking baddie

Quote (Hockeygod9911 @ Jul 1 2011 08:53am)

The guide is out of date and i dont even do what the guide says anymore to be honest. Different items to start, to jungle, no wriggles at all. I still use phoenix but, meta game has changed, so has playstyle on Udyr.

Quote (Floooopy @ Jun 30 2011 11:54pm)

IMO, stay in phoenix the whole time until they realize they shouldn't have fucked with you (1v1)... then change to bear as soon as they start to retreat. In team fights, it's completely situational. If their carry can potentially own everyone, flash in and stun her/phoenix/turtle/bear/phoenix. Phoenix is so much safer than tiger, and does shitloads of damage. You can effectively tank with phoenix, whereas tiger requires DPS items.

Quote (0Ti @ Jul 1 2011 12:48am)

Use R for 5 seconds because the aoe runs out, then stun with E again, then Q proc, then R for 5 seconds again.

You can stun with E every 6 seconds. It's pretty much a smooth rotation.

Quote (Hockeygod9911 @ Jul 1 2011 05:53am)

The guide is out of date and i dont even do what the guide says anymore to be honest. Different items to start, to jungle, no wriggles at all. I still use phoenix but, meta game has changed, so has playstyle on Udyr.

Quote (Impose @ Jul 1 2011 11:03am)

Phoenix and Tiger have BOTH been tested extensively on jungle speeds

Phoenix has won everytime and phoenix actually does MORE damage in early ganks (levels 3-7) than tiger can ever hope to achieve.

That is all

Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jul 1 2011 11:48am)

Yeah I understand how to do it, I'm commenting on the shortcomings of the guide.



Yeah, I don't see why you'd go wriggles with Phoenix...or why you have no aspeed runes with phoenix ><

Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jul 1 2011 12:04pm)

Which is why I say open with 3 in Phoenix but max tiger late game.
Or max both and just put 3 in turtle...

Quote (0Ti @ Jul 1 2011 12:43pm)

R > Q > R > E > R > Q > R
Turtle is for wusses.

Quote (Jurikeh @ Jul 1 2011 03:52pm)

ive been using this build the last few games results are

5/2/17
16/7/11

I do like it better, pheonix+turtle synergize very well and give me alot more survivability and sustain ability, once I get triforce its gg

Quote (crimsontide @ Jul 1 2011 09:24am)

Different Runes? One can hope.