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i like the build tho

I would never try to gank a blue buff on ap shaco.

It's an illusion, Michael. Tricks are what whores do for money.

i was refering to your gank in the bush close to the wraith when the enemy team have a jungler.
( the two first mini map screen shot )

I don't know many people who still protecting a jungler that far into a game.

I dont know who you face but when i play in ranked most game ( except if we have like blitz ) everyone go to our blue. When CV is back up we check their golem. Usualy they have 3-4 players there so bot lane + sometimes mid go check the wraith.Then 2 of them go bot.

According to your guide, you rush to that spot right off the bat. Which mean you would get caught by 2-3 player most games.

Or if you read, I said check to see if it's safe first.

Place a jitb down to get vision, then if it's clear go place on in the bush...etc.

I never said RUN BLINDLY INTO THE BUSH AND DON'T ASK ALLIES TO CV IT FOR YOU OR ANYTHING.

This is kinda cute.

10/10 guide this is solomid/mobofire type shit +1 i love it.

Well you will get to the bush before the enemy team. I havent been argueing with the fact that you will get ganked or not. I was trying to say that 2-3 enemy champ will get in the bush to check their wraith ( while you are there stacking your box ) and will make you b.
Like you said to that udyr jungler, i dont see how you can achive such a good gank ratio agaisnt decent players.



Wouldnt it be just safer if your team cv their blue to steal their golems to slow down their jungler and get extra exp. Or even steal their red your team comp is good for that?

Sorry if you take it on an aggresive note but i am not trying to insult you or your guide. I think the guide is well written and it was fun to read.

edit : typo

This post was edited by allllllllllllllldo on Jul 12 2011 09:50am