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Dec 4 2013 09:38am
Quote (jtrac07 @ Dec 4 2013 04:35pm)
not sure how well it would work in solo q tho, will prob get flamed from team noob build tank rengar hahah


Thanks for telling me your bronze adventures
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Quote (Headshot @ Dec 4 2013 07:38am)
Thanks for telling me your bronze adventures


bronce is elo heaven
lmk how it turns out
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Dec 4 2013 09:47am
Quote (Dethrone @ 4 Dec 2013 11:16)
Korean build too OP

That split push power

Rush Sunfire/Spirit Visage
Tooth Necklace
Spirit Visage/Sunfire
Trinity Force
Sell boots for Zephyr

Max E or W depending on lane


arent that 5 items? :3
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Dec 4 2013 09:54am
Quote (xCoLa @ Dec 4 2013 08:47am)
arent that 5 items? :3


You win before 6 items.
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Dec 4 2013 10:08am
Probably the most annoying thing in the game right now.
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Dec 4 2013 10:29am
Quote (Tommyvv @ Dec 4 2013 08:50am)
what about frozen heart instead of sunfire?
95armor+20cdr%+20ias drained from cloose enemie for 2900gold > 40magic damage per sec whitin 400range + 45armor + 450life


then you get da 40%cdr alot sooner then waiting for double  Zephyr


Battle Roar 170magic damage to cloose enemies, ones per 11sec
Bola Strike 240damage ones per 8sec
Savagery 150 (+ 100% AD) ones per 6 sec

at 20%cdr from spirit visage, your total skill dps (exl ulti/excl. bonus ad, ecl. AP) will be:
170/(11-20%) = 19.31dps
240/(8-20%) = 37.5
(150+100)/(6-20%) = 52.08

total = 108.9dps when spam skills (excl. base attack) at 20%cdr


so increasing da 20cdr to a 40cdr

170/(11-40%)=25.76
50
69.44

total = 145.2dps when spam skills at 40%cdr

da 20%increased cdr adds 36.03dps

then it comes to da extra -20%enemy ias and 50armor vs 450health



Frozen Heart Gold Value 2900

■95 armor = 1900g
■400 mana = 800g
■20% cooldown reduction = 644g
■Total Gold Value = 3344g
Gold Efficiency
■ Frozen Heart is gold efficient even without its aura.

if take away da mana
3344-800gold = 2544
da passive must have at least a gold value of 356gold, to be efficient


Sunfire Cost Analysis Gold Value

■450 health = 1188g
■45 armor = 900g
■Total Gold Value = 2088g
Gold Efficiency

■The passive must have at least a value of 562g for  Sunfire Cape to be gold efficient.


if you add that up,
da passive from sunfire have a goldvalue of +/- da 20%extra cdr
644gold for 20cdr - 562gold for sunfire cap passive that does +/-same effect as da 40magic damage per sec = 82 gold profit if shop a sunfire

Passive Unique: Reduces the attack speed of nearby enemies by 20%. (700 range)
Note: Attack speed reductions stack multiplicatively and take percentages off the final attack speed value after all bonus attack speed has been factored in.
nn teoriecraft to know that -20%enemy normal attack dps > 356+82gold


tl;dr
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Dec 4 2013 10:49am
Thank you for dropping the knowledge Tommyvvv
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Quote (Dethrone @ Dec 4 2013 01:16am)
Korean build too OP

That split push power

Rush Sunfire/Spirit Visage
Tooth Necklace
Spirit Visage/Sunfire
Trinity Force
Sell boots for Zephyr

Max E or W depending on lane


i had to check the date to make sure this wasn't necro'd
this has been done since late season 2
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Dec 4 2013 10:50am
Quote (Aloh @ Dec 4 2013 04:29pm)
tl;dr

added ontop da cdr vs da damage aura, resulting in no dps changes
and da gold effiecientcy be better from da frozen heart, even if da mana is waisted
are da normal attack damage bonus, from da cdr, da ias, da armor+res etc
da rangar heal benefit more from da armor and -20%attack speed then from da 450health ofc, same do lifesteal/life regen/other heals
also da 400ranged sunfire aura works less time, and on less enemies then da 700ranged slow ias aura

Quote (Dethrone @ Dec 4 2013 04:49pm)
Thank you for dropping the knowledge Tommyvvv


thx, your welcome ofc!

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Dec 4 2013 11:00am
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Dec 4 2013 10:51am
Quote (Boost4U @ Dec 4 2013 08:55am)
must have been rlly bad then

cuz maxing w is like insta full hp


he sustained early on quite well, however after Six he couldn't handle the cougar damage,

also I built more damage then tank.
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