i agree with all of these : D

i like the yellow and blue regen runes.
those are what i use.

aslong as you dont spam your volley every time it is up you only need 1 set of regen runes
and especially if u went 9/0/21 for some reason you definitely wouldnt need 2 sets

I start with a regrowth pendent and turn it into a phios stone. Gives mana regen and health regen+ extra money which is always good. I also always get boots of swiftness because merc treds are dumb 1 cc and ur going to die neways even with them. Then rush a bf sword because if u can last hit and with philos stone you should get in no time.

trollin is fun

My build is obviously more of a harass\Last hit build.

Im not sure what your build is, but it sounds like you run cdr or dodge or something useless on Ashe.
Lets see, your build:
1. Lacks the speed to harass really well early game, and effectively dodge enemy spells + last hit.
2. why 21\0\9? 10% crit damage is like +20dmg, +3 dmg from havoc or whatever, and a decent 21 mastery. When utility drops your CD more on volley and your ult, increases spamability of spells, and allows buff duration to be 30% longer (which can really make a diference).
Please dont forget I also use clairvoyance, and the mastery is quite nice to have. On top of that you can get the slight movement speed mastery ontop of your boots for optimum low level speed.

Only other way I see starting out with ashe is with a dorans shield.

redundant much?
why would you need clair with hawkshot? thats like getting ghost on zilean
redundant also you get 21 offensive for not just the 10% crit but also the 5% damage
early game yea its small beans. late game 10% of ur infinity crit + 5% more is a nice bonus to have
never once played a ranged carry without 21-x-x maserties

Hawkshot and clairvoyance means I can steal just about any buff, can check just about any part of the map I want, at any time I want.
It also means I RARELY die mid.. Whereas you depend on MIA's , i depend on my own set of skills and spells.

Lets say clairvoyance + utlity tree save my life 2 times during a game, allowing me to play an extra 50seconds I wouldnt of been able to.
Lets say I get offensive skill tree, and get 2 extra kills for 400gold; but also have 2 more deaths from early-mid (or even late) game ganks.

Id much rather be 0-0 with an extra 50seconds to farm gold + exp
compared to
Being 2-2 and losing that 50seconds of farming\exp

In 50seconds I can get close to, if not more than 400gold - without the 2 deaths (Which also gives your enemies gold)

All in all, id much rather not die and just contiue farming VS get kills and deaths

the whole reason i dont get boots is because ashes normal attacks early game dont hit for shit
so you use volley to harass. it has a huge range and you dont need boots to get close to use it
21/0/9 for 10% crit damage when you crit so much with ashe, while 20 damage isnt much its alot more than 4% cdr and some mana
as a ranged carry you shouldnt need to spam your spells, u just need to right click

dorans blade is good on ashe
and no i dont run cdr or dodge on ashe, and i dont run something else useless
such as 2 sets of mana regen runes

your so critical of everyone on this forum.

the difference between doran + health and boots + x3 health is not huge. they both provide staying power and they both enhance your harass (imo boots > doran)
the difference between 1 set of mana regen runes, 2 sets or no sets.. More mana = more skills = more damage. hes gonna get an extra volley here and there. ashe eats up a pretty good amount of mana early-mid. not crazy to put on runes to compensate.
dodge and cdr runes arent useless. I dont use either on ashe, but to call them "useless" is just bias and shortsighted.

Just open your mind for once and consider other peoples opinions before shutting them down and explaining your own. I bet you havent even tried most of the concepts he presents.

also worth noting that some of the ideas you bring forward make sense as well.

This post was edited by ROFLmanMAN on Nov 14 2010 04:55pm