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Sep 14 2019 11:16am
You know the sad truth behind all this is if you just played more games every day you'd be plat by now.
That negative win rate even though your velkoz kda/win rate is fine for climbing is giving me anxiety.
Obviously your skill level is higher than your reflected rating.
Just grind it.
Norms or ranked you separate as "practice and try hard" right? but you can and should be learning from ranked anyways. Simply because it has the ability to reward success and punish failure.
Not saying don't practice a champ.. just think about the 2 days you spent spamming normals. Those could have been wins towards plat 4 promo matches. (and obviously losses).
In the end you do you though, if you the type of guy to want to feel ready for ranked than do what you do in order to do that.
I think back to season 2 when i started playing this game and had under 100 games to my name (pvp wise) and my friends are harassing me to play ranked on a piece of shit comp that gave me 10-15 fps during teamfights and at the time i lived east coast
so 24/7 120 ping minimum.
I obliged their demands and placed in silver. I know the game more now than i ever did then and i'd go back and tell myself to just chilll a bit.
So i understand if u dont feel ready to grind it.
I just think in looking at most high elo players, that's all you really need to do to climb to your skill level. Play enough games.

Inb4 i have less ranked games played than you this season.
Yup we both prob wont make it to plat with the little games we play daily.
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Sep 14 2019 11:30am
Quote (Poonisher @ Sep 14 2019 12:16pm)
You know the sad truth behind all this is if you just played more games every day you'd be plat by now.
That negative win rate even though your velkoz kda/win rate is fine for climbing is giving me anxiety.
Obviously your skill level is higher than your reflected rating.
Just grind it.
Norms or ranked you separate as "practice and try hard" right? but you can and should be learning from ranked anyways. Simply because it has the ability to reward success and punish failure.
Not saying don't practice a champ.. just think about the 2 days you spent spamming normals. Those could have been wins towards plat 4 promo matches. (and obviously losses).
In the end you do you though, if you the type of guy to want to feel ready for ranked than do what you do in order to do that.
I think back to season 2 when i started playing this game and had under 100 games to my name (pvp wise) and my friends are harassing me to play ranked on a piece of shit comp that gave me 10-15 fps during teamfights and at the time i lived east coast
so 24/7 120 ping minimum.
I obliged their demands and placed in silver. I know the game more now than i ever did then and i'd go back and tell myself to just chilll a bit.
So i understand if u dont feel ready to grind it.
I just think in looking at most high elo players, that's all you really need to do to climb to your skill level. Play enough games.

Inb4 i have less ranked games played than you this season.
Yup we both prob wont make it to plat with the little games we play daily.


Thanks for the advice. I can't really grind the game to where I want to be (plat) because of other obligations...kinda frustrating, because I think I'm better than my rank reflects, but I do understand that it is a grindfest game and to see your "true" rank, there's no way around it.

Yep, I probably will finish with around 200-300 games this season...not enough, lol.
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Sep 14 2019 11:52am
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Sep 14 2019 11:55am
Don't get me wrong, do you like to control the lane and not let them roam? Curious because a lot of your losses you do well but your team feeds or 1-2 lane feeds making it heavy for you or your jungler to carry. In my experience, the vel koz's I play with don't hard carry even if lanes are losing due to being out scaled by other champs.

I feel like you might enjoy utility mages, have you tried lissandria, oriana , lux or syndra? You could protect your feeding lane in fights if you have to or go burst if ahead. To me if you can't hard carry as a mid laner you'll have a lower chance of winning without another dominant lane.. but if you compensate in another aspect such as being utility it'll help the over game, part of why I see more vel koz in support than mid. Have you thought about playing support vel koz primary and mid secondary? I feel like you should be high gold low plat with your vel koz, maybe dominating bot lane will help you win more
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Sep 14 2019 12:01pm
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Quote (gOOk @ Sep 14 2019 12:55pm)
Don't get me wrong, do you like to control the lane and not let them roam? Curious because a lot of your losses you do well but your team feeds or 1-2 lane feeds making it heavy for you or your jungler to carry. In my experience, the vel koz's I play with don't hard carry even if lanes are losing due to being out scaled by other champs.

I feel like you might enjoy utility mages, have you tried lissandria, oriana , lux or syndra? You could protect your feeding lane in fights if you have to or go burst if ahead. To me if you can't hard carry as a mid laner you'll have a lower chance of winning without another dominant lane.. but if you compensate in another aspect such as being utility it'll help the over game, part of why I see more vel koz in support than mid. Have you thought about playing support vel koz primary and mid secondary? I feel like you should be high gold low plat with your vel koz, maybe dominating bot lane will help you win more


Yea, I've tried them all. Gonna actually give Liss another shot cause I just unlocked her yesterday.

/e I used to queue mid/supp, but I found that in my supp vel games, I felt far less impactful.

This post was edited by TheE1337 on Sep 14 2019 12:10pm
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Sep 14 2019 12:13pm
Quote (TheE1337 @ Sep 14 2019 02:04pm)
Yea, I've tried them all. Gonna actually give Liss another shot cause I just unlocked her yesterday.


By all means I'm not a great midlaner (I support main, I have trouble csing) but my go to mid laner is morgana, veigar and lissandria because even if i fall in lane pressure I can compensate by being utility to help my teammates
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Sep 14 2019 12:42pm
Quote (TheE1337 @ Sep 14 2019 11:30am)
Thanks for the advice. I can't really grind the game to where I want to be (plat) because of other obligations...kinda frustrating, because I think I'm better than my rank reflects, but I do understand that it is a grindfest game and to see your "true" rank, there's no way around it.

Yep, I probably will finish with around 200-300 games this season...not enough, lol.


You're definitely better than gold players, no thinking needed.
Judging by your op.gg i'd even say you're at least gold on off roles and champs.
These are the situations that had people screaming elo hell back in season 3-4.
You're clearly better than your rating at the moment but trapped in this coin toss win rate.

The difference between hard climbing and hardstuck is probably what you're doing with the lane leads.
Your last 2 games are practically write offs but any game where you carried/lost and it was close, revisit them.
Sure you'll learn something rewatching these last 2 games but "play better" isn't going to fix a 15 death lee sin with half his deaths in KP.

Its easy to say and probably obvious but you just gotta figure out what you're not doing right.
As its always said, you're the only factor you can fix or change from game to game.

You prob watch Azzapp right? Of course he's mechanically good enough to pilot velkoz but i'm not sure thats enough to carry someone to master with.
Tune into his streams from time to time if you don't. There could be subtle things you aren't doing at certain item or level breakpoints which he does.
At this point its the little things that matter for a guy like you. You aren't making very many mistakes but the ones you do prob cost you the game.

Good luck friend.
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Sep 14 2019 01:39pm
Quote (Poonisher @ Sep 14 2019 02:42pm)
You're definitely better than gold players, no thinking needed.
Judging by your op.gg i'd even say you're at least gold on off roles and champs.
These are the situations that had people screaming elo hell back in season 3-4.
You're clearly better than your rating at the moment but trapped in this coin toss win rate.

The difference between hard climbing and hardstuck is probably what you're doing with the lane leads.
Your last 2 games are practically write offs but any game where you carried/lost and it was close, revisit them.
Sure you'll learn something rewatching these last 2 games but "play better" isn't going to fix a 15 death lee sin with half his deaths in KP.

Its easy to say and probably obvious but you just gotta figure out what you're not doing right.
As its always said, you're the only factor you can fix or change from game to game.

You prob watch Azzapp right? Of course he's mechanically good enough to pilot velkoz but i'm not sure thats enough to carry someone to master with.
Tune into his streams from time to time if you don't. There could be subtle things you aren't doing at certain item or level breakpoints which he does.
At this point its the little things that matter for a guy like you. You aren't making very many mistakes but the ones you do prob cost you the game.

Good luck friend.


I mean taking a second combat summoner instead of TP makes more sense...

Also you take electrocute sometimes instead of comet, should be comet like 98% of games.. Also you take resolve secondary when it should be inspiration..

Also, you level skills incredibly random..

I think velkoz is like Q -> W -> E -> W -> W -> R -> Q Max.

Doing a quick look I see 2 pink wards across 4 games.. thats a huge issue.... especially since vel'koz is so good at poking around vision and catching people blind like Lux..


Maybe you took resolve cause it gets you out of situations at your rank right now, but if thats the reason you're surviving most fights, you're going to just die vs better players because its a positioning issue.






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