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why not take 2% atk speed over +2 damage to minions in the offense mastery tree
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finally someone besides me that understands the way armor pen/magic pen works. so sick of seeing a lw in every game

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i like this guide
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finally someone besides me that understands the way armor pen/magic pen works.  so sick of seeing a lw in every game

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it should be pretty obvious...

i suck hard at math but, should be obvious if they have 10 armor, a LW will only pierce through 4, vs a black cleaver putting them into negative
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Quote (Koldhearted @ Apr 5 2011 08:46pm)
it should be pretty obvious...

i suck hard at math but, should be obvious if they have 10 armor, a LW will only pierce through 4, vs a black cleaver putting them into negative


not only this but also the order of reduction. If you get flat pen or -armor aura items, lw is useless. if you only want to buy 1 armor pen item and you focus your reds on ad/as/crit then go for the LW.
order for armor reducing effects:
-armor aura > -flat armor(Runes>Masteries>Items) > %reduction to armor.

example:
Runes, 25ArP
Masteries, 6ArP
Items, Starks (20ArP Aura) LW(-40% ArP)

Enemy Armor:
50

Auras applied: 50-20 = 30
Runes applied: 30-25 = 5
Masteries Applied: 5 - 6 = 0**
Flat ArP Items applied: -------------------
Percent Based Reduction applied: 0-0=0

Value of LW = 0

Enemy Armor:
100

Auras applied: 100-20 = 80
Runes applied: 80-25 = 55
Masteries Applied: 55 - 6 = 49
Flat ArP Items applied: -------------------
Percent Based Reduction applied: 49 x0.6 = 29.4

Value of LW = ~20

Enemy Armor:
150

Auras applied: 150-20 = 130
Runes applied: 130-25 = 105
Masteries Applied: 105 - 6 = 99
Flat ArP Items applied: -------------------
Percent Based Reduction applied: 99 x0.6 = 59.4

Value of LW = ~40

Enemy Armor:
200

Auras applied: 200-20 = 180
Runes applied: 180-25 = 155
Masteries Applied: 155 - 6 = 149
Flat ArP Items applied: -------------------
Percent Based Reduction applied: 149 x0.6 = 89.4

Value of LW = ~60

**AFAIK: ONLY auras can take armor into the negatives

Now if we add a BC into there for kicks LW becomes even more useless.

ANYWHO For those who just blinked and typed tl:dr, LW sucks unless its by itself. If you play a hero that synergized well with it, aka has other % reducing abilities, think about removing ArP from your masteries/runes and just getting a LW as your offensive item. Easy Example is Jarvan and his poke, with LW alone + poke he has 68% armor pen, thats huge and crazy cost efficient. Otherwise, stick to ArP runes and flat items/auras.

This post was edited by Tetu_880 on Apr 5 2011 07:19pm
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