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Sep 14 2018 05:11pm
Rather than reply to topics asking questions I made a thread I thought would be helpful to new and returning traders.

Fear of bans is legitimately high. As a result the volume of tickets traded here is now very small compared with the past.
Historically most traders in this subforum were never MTGO players they were here for favorable currency conversion ratios but moved to other markets.

WOTC is in a tough position
Trader A buys MTGO Tix with Credit Card
Trader A trades them to Trader B
WOTC gets a Charge Back from the credit card, does not matter if it was actually stolen or owner just lied and cancelled their own legitimate transaction.
Trader A obviously gets MTGO account banned but loses nothing except a dummy account & any unsold digital objects none of which they actually paid for.
How do the employees that WOTC has to pay to take the time to investigate respond with regard to Trader B?
Do they delete the stolen tickets from Trader B's account? What if those tickets were already traded again or spent on events?
Should Trader B get to keep the stolen items because he/she claims to have paid fg despite such a transaction being a violation of WOTC's Terms of Service.
Do they ban Trader B for breaking TOS and providing the FG that motivated Trader A's fraud?
If they let Trader B keep the tickets what do they do the next time he/she is in the same situation & the time after that?
What incentive do they have to let Trader B keep the tickets when all Trader B does is sell them to Trader C who then sells then to WOTC's customers at below face value?

Keep in mind when you trade:
They see certain keywords .
They see transactions where you trade tickets and get nothing in return.
They have searchable records of your transactions and chat logs going back years where you may have mentioned FG, JSP or your account name here etc.
If you traded in the past they may have already noted a link between your JSP and MTGO accounts.
They look at this forum and note changes in FG that correspond with MTGO Trades and posts here.
Even if they have nothing on you right now publicly trading with a flagged user is very traceable.
If they choose they can ban you or remove digital objects from your account for their suspicions with or without warning, you have no legal recourse.
They don't need proof this is not criminal court.
All you can do in response is email/chat/phone claim your only guilt was breaking the TOS possibly citing ignorance and try to convince them to appease a customer that in some way spends actual money that they actually receive on their products.

Luckily WOTC usually issues warnings first and tends to be more lenient towards accounts that actively play the game the rather then just launder tickets.
WOTC does not want to ban or otherwise alienate real customers who spend money on their products.
WOTC has every incentive to ban and otherwise discourage users who just cause them headaches and financial loss trading outside their marketplace.
Regardless it is not wise to risk an account with a large value of digital products, particularly one that has already been warned.
If you create multiple MTGO accounts remember names/addresses/billing information/IP & MAC addresses/In game transfer between accounts/JSP Trades could be used to identify all the accounts as belonging to the same person.

It is not worth the time or risk attempting to flip Tix for profit, but some people will try anyway.
The reason why the public prices are so low is because greed will get you to take unnecessary risks and some real users are competing to sell tix vs people who stole them.
Always get/give some other digital objects in exchange for tickets.
Trade with users you trust, both not to scam you but also to use similar precautions.
Put details about the trade in PM's and keep them out public forum posts.
Ideally trade privately. I recommend looking at Donor Forums and other markets to set your ratios.
Don't trade with new or careless users just because they are offering a good ratio.
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