I just wrote some fucking essay for that danemj3 bloke and it turns out he was offline anyway LOL.
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You seem to be interpreting this in the wrong way. What you just said was not relevant. And I do not believe in god, and I always use scientific evaluation. Heaven and hell is a physical impossibility.
It doesn't matter whether it's for the greater good or not, for any reason, an empirical person such as yourself would not be capable of killing thousands of his own people. If you can't understand "faith in humanity" after saying that then you need to stop associating the word with religion.
I used to be like you.. used to think there is no way that some1 could think that killing others could actually be for the greater good..
however name the last time we have been at peace?
or how about that more americans have died in the middle east since 9/11 then during the 9/11 tragedy?
I mean just do a little research.. I know it doesnt seem right but its hard to have faith with everything that happens and has happened..
You aren't paying attention to what I'm saying. Killing people can be for the greater good, and we kill people all the time. Morality goes out the window when you are killing someone from a different nation does it not?
Killing your OWN people can also be for the greater good, however I don't believe anyone would do this unless in a civil war. Do you believe a bunch of people got together and sat around a table and said "The only way out of this depression is to get Japan to bomb Pearl Harbour" "Fuck yeah let's do this"?
I understand there are some bad seeds in this world, but NO ONE would sit idly by and let someone make that call. I simply believe it does not happen. Every historic event has some kind of conspiracy associated with it. Not everything is as it seems I know, but you need to be realistic.
I see what ur saying.. i have heard it all before 100 times..
i have a link for you.. its not conspiracy bullshit.. just an empirical analysis of the event..
http://video.googleeee.com/videoplay?docid=-4617650616903609314#just take out the 3 e's
or a very nice site that is nonpartisan, non profit, mostly unbiased that addresses relevant issues in society..
http://www.iiiindependent.org/events/past_events.asptake out the 3 i's
you cant watch then events for free but you can listen free
i have listened to them all
obviously you dont have to do either..
just demonstrating that i do A LOT of research and mostly know what im talking about..
You say you used to be like me, until when, you watch this youtube video? Do not take that as an insult, I am just saying that you said you believe in what is see-able, touchable etc, you believe in the scientific analysis.
Thinking scientifically means being skeptical, skeptical of everything. If you can let your opinions be swayed after watching a youtube video, and not take into account several factors such as the fact that with the right linguistic techniques you can make a fool believe anything, I don't believe you're cut out for a career in science.
I'm not believing anything this person is saying, and why should I? Because he is a member of the AIA? Meaningless statistics do not effect me. Wow, the minority of the American population believes 9/11 was an inside job, it must be true..?
I will not watch the whole video, as I cannot afford to use so much bandwidth, but someone that truly thinks scientifically would not be swayed by a video like that. Cutting to the audience shaking their heads, you don't understand the effect that is supposed to have on the viewer?
Sorry about the essay, I like a good debate.
This post was edited by pissed247 on Nov 16 2009 11:33pm