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Aug 16 2009 11:33pm
Quote (YoDaddy61 @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 12:37pm)
Hi everyone.

I light of the recent posts regarding bump requests, I must apologize for bringing attention upon myself and the Guild.

To remedy this issue, I plan to travel to New Zealand in the near future and pummel Cloudifre about the head and shoulders with a small lamb.

Hopefully, this calm and well thought out course of action will alleviate any tensions that have arisin. ( I honestly think his post was in jest, but he does have a certain site-nazi quality about him at times. as many of us do, including me.)

Seriously, I guess I will lighten up a bit. I often get extremely frustrated when I see 20+ early bumps in topics on a regular basis, even by long time members of the site, and members of respected guilds. I wish the Mediators and/or site Administrators would spend a bit more time policing the trade forum(s) with this in mind.

I, for one, NEVER early bump any of my topics in the most blatent form; meaning I do not post my own entries back to back for ANY reason. It's difficult, however, to watch ones topic plummet down the pages in a matter of minutes by flagrant self bumpers, thus eliminating any real chance of selling ones wares without the help of fellow users and friends to bring the thread back to the top every hour or so via a vouch or bump.

My trading time is limited this time of year, and trading is the sole source of forum gold for me, as well as being my favorite component of the game in general. I "horsetrade" for a living, and it brings me pleasure to pursue the "deal".

ISO a stated GUILD policy on this issue. I will adhere to it vigorously.


Dan, I think the New Zealanders have an anti-lamb bludgeoning law. Something about cruelty to lambs. Or cruelty to patrons of greek food. Anyway......

I find the best way to keep my 'for sale' thread at the top is to sell multiple items and keep open bidding. set prices and short lists seem to mean posting death. I've never had an item worth much but still manage to sell fairly well when I have at least pitifully cheap crap that folks will buy, by being prepared to only sell about half of the items I list.

I have often wondered - what is to stop several people from co-posting? I specifically mean to open a thread for multiple sellers? Almost like a guild flea market.

And I personally see nothing wrong with bumping the posts of fellow guilders (and the rules do not prohibit it, either) - within reason anyway. From my limited experience with this guild, it seems most of us already do this intuitively for one another. Dan, is your search for a 'guild policy' mainly a desire to eliminate the vagueness of 'within reason?'
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Quote (dmrispoli @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 01:33am)
Dan, I think the New Zealanders have an anti-lamb bludgeoning law.  Something about cruelty to lambs.  Or cruelty to patrons of greek food.  Anyway......

I find the best way to keep my 'for sale' thread at the top is to sell multiple items and keep open bidding.  set prices and short lists seem to mean posting death.  I've never had an item worth much but still manage to sell fairly well when I have at least pitifully cheap crap that folks will buy, by being prepared to only sell about half of the items I list.

I have often wondered - what is to stop several people from co-posting?  I specifically mean to open a thread for multiple sellers?  Almost like a guild flea market.

And I personally see nothing wrong with bumping the posts of fellow guilders (and the rules do not prohibit it, either) - within reason anyway.  From my limited experience with this guild, it seems most of us already do this intuitively for one another.  Dan, is your search for a 'guild policy' mainly a desire to eliminate the vagueness of  'within reason?'


nice avatar :) the bumps and vouches are clearly considered spam though, if ya read the rules. the problems arise from those who don't abide by the rules getting away with, essentially no penalty, for not doing so, while the rest of us law abiding jsp'ers suffer the consequences of being "bumped" to page 3 in less than a minute by them early bumping their topics (like every other minute to keep it on page one). it's tough to follow the rules when this is allowed and allowed on an ongoing basis. the spam topic makers is another issue entirely but adds to the normal rule abiding persons frustrations in the same manner. i posted a topic offering a potential solution: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=34214032&f=258 please vote and/or add your input ;)
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Aug 16 2009 11:54pm
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Quote (Consul @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 01:54am)
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hey bro :hello:
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good night guys :zzz:
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Quote (xandumx @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 04:08pm)
good night guys  :zzz:


night mate

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hey bro  :hello:


what sup fella ? :)
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Aug 17 2009 02:46am
Quote (YoDaddy61 @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 11:37am)
Hi everyone.

I light of the recent posts regarding bump requests, I must apologize for bringing attention upon myself and the Guild.

To remedy this issue, I plan to travel to New Zealand in the near future and pummel Cloudifre about the head and shoulders with a small lamb.

Hopefully, this calm and well thought out course of action will alleviate any tensions that have arisin. ( I honestly think his post was in jest, but he does have a certain site-nazi quality about him at times. as many of us do, including me.)

Seriously, I guess I will lighten up a bit. I often get extremely frustrated when I see 20+ early bumps in topics on a regular basis, even by long time members of the site, and members of respected guilds. I wish the Mediators and/or site Administrators would spend a bit more time policing the trade forum(s) with this in mind.

I, for one, NEVER early bump any of my topics in the most blatent form; meaning I do not post my own entries back to back for ANY reason. It's difficult, however, to watch ones topic plummet down the pages in a matter of minutes by flagrant self bumpers, thus eliminating any real chance of selling ones wares without the help of fellow users and friends to bring the thread back to the top every hour or so via a vouch or bump.

My trading time is limited this time of year, and trading is the sole source of forum gold for me, as well as being my favorite component of the game in general. I "horsetrade" for a living, and it brings me pleasure to pursue the "deal".

ISO a stated GUILD policy on this issue. I will adhere to it vigorously.


yea i hate it too, i used to kinda work with a few mods when i was actively trading in the US east forums alot. i would see repeat offenders and report their topics. they would get closed and i would make a list in notepad of all their closed topics due to early bumps. i would then pm the mod and he would verbal them. it would take me pming a list to a mod like 5x for them to give a 10% warn and it got pretty frustrating cuz the ppl would just continue. i stopped doing it for this reason and i just dont go in the trade forums much anymore.

i think the mods seem to think that it is a minor infraction and dont take it seriously, like u said it is extremely frustrating trying to sell anything when your topic is on the first page for less than a min sometimes cuz id say atleast 75% of the community continually early bump their topics. in my humble opinion it ruins the trade experience, and is one of the main reasons i dont actively browse and trade anymore.


Quote (MrMoJoRising @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 06:25pm)
Hello members of COT!

My name is Jim and today is my first day in COT.  This afternoon I got accepted on a probationary 30 term by IronDuke.  I have two current friends already in COT, those two being Ken aka coolychilly and Ben aka Garnier. I'm a D2 player on both ladder and non-ladder.  Currently only non-ladder until this "reset" promised to us by Blizzard happens =)  I look forward to getting to know more of you guys and playing with you guys online in D2.  Any D2 players feel free to add my to your friends list on Bnet if you wish.  On Bnet I also go by the name, "MrMoJoRising".  If anyone has any questions about me feel free to ask =)  I have a little bit more info posted up me in my profile page.

I'm very excited to be here.  I've been wanting to join for a long time since my friends coolychilly and Garnier joined.  I respect and admire a guild built around the principles of trust and respect.  I look forward to being with COT for a long time!  Special thanks to IronDuke for accepting my "Request to Join."  :)

-Jim
MrMoJoRising


welcome to COT Jim, im Brad :)

This post was edited by Four20 on Aug 17 2009 02:52am
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Quote (dmrispoli @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 01:00am)
Welcome to COT Jim. If you need someone to start at the bottom of the east ladder with, I'd run with you some time.

Thank you and yes, I look forward to playing with you guys from the bottom of the ladder when it finally resets :)


Quote (Four20 @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 04:46am)
welcome to COT Jim, im Brad :)

Thank you. Nice to meet you :)
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Quote (HellRazor000 @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 08:20pm)
new sig ...Dave was bored... opinions


I like it! :P Good job sir

Also welcome Jim, nice to have you here... feel free to PM me at anytime for anything.

Have a good day all :hello:
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Aug 17 2009 06:45am
mark pm me about ur lvl 30 axe buddy.
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