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Aug 13 2009 09:43am
well i won't use 600 stack, nn so much
but 100 from kira, 40 from cr boots, 40 hoto and some from inv etc
maybe about 300-400stack?
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Quote (nobody367 @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 05:43pm)
well i won't use 600 stack, nn so much
but 100 from kira, 40 from cr boots, 40 hoto and some from inv etc
maybe about 300-400stack?


Quote (nobody367 @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 05:37pm)
well imo there shouldnt be a stack limit, especially when i see our teams
cos if you face an orb sorc as hdin and got a stack LIMIT it's freaking lol
as long as you don't abs orb sorc still got a BIG BIG advantage here so imo we should play just usual:


well , example : my orb sorc have -245 coldres + 2 facets = -255
180 stacked is allowed , that will reduce my negative bonus to - 75 coldres , if you think i have 1400 damage , make some calcules after pvp penalty / raven absorb and you will find that it isn`t that imbalanced

stacked resists means :
duels on nm = -50 res
so , on nm you have 125 all resists to have 75 after penalty

180 stacked + 125 = 305 res on nm allowed

if you think this rule couldn`t find its purpose , we won`t apply here since it isn`t in that set of rules i found

This post was edited by brainpower777 on Aug 13 2009 09:46am
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well imo there shouldnt be a stack limit, especially when i see our teams
cos if you face an orb sorc as hdin and got a stack LIMIT it's freaking lol
as long as you don't abs orb sorc still got a BIG BIG advantage here so imo we should play just usual:

manapool allowed if your opponent doesnt have anything against
prebuff from stash allowed as long as it's only memory (maybe ench for barbs allowed aswell?)
stack limit only for barb/assa/smiter(charger) (all other chars can be beaten even if they got xxx k stack if they don't use more than 75max. i personally never had problems or blamed anyone for stack when i played my coldsorc cos without stack on your opponent you can just defwhore him down...)


lmk what u think^^


Well depends on Stack limit.
According to the rules jonny posted it seems like it is allowed to have 250 stack (stack means 75 + 250) + 1 raven. Enough Stack at all.
even tho i agree at one point for stack limitation.
I find it kinda senseless to ban res auras from duels if they stack over the limit. Becasue of the saem reason i already mentioned.
If pala using stack aura his dmg will suffer from it alot. espicially on palas who use charge to chase opponent.

Soo... tell me why shud pala use Res aura then at all? There is no advantage he can get from it. He will be better with just using stack inv / eq and use his usual aura.
So kinda makes res aura pretty useless .
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Well depends on Stack limit.
According to the rules jonny posted it seems like it is allowed to have 250 stack (stack means 75 + 250) + 1 raven. Enough Stack at all.
even tho i agree at one point for stack limitation.
I find it kinda senseless to ban res auras from duels if they stack over the limit. Becasue of the saem reason i already mentioned.
If pala using stack aura his dmg will suffer from it alot. espicially on palas who use charge to chase opponent.

Soo... tell me why shud pala use Res aura then at all? There is no advantage he can get from it. He will be better with just using stack inv / eq and use his usual aura.
So kinda makes res aura pretty useless .


actually , resistance aura is allowed but it counts as +maxres / absorb
you won`t be allowed to have another item who grants + max res or absorb item

though i must agree with you , you must be kindda stupid to use it , but in some cases works great ...

This post was edited by brainpower777 on Aug 13 2009 09:48am
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hello

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This post was edited by Forb1ddeN on Aug 13 2009 09:50am
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no fee , and since the groups are already made & we have some rules , we can start even now ^^
rules :
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=32453569&f=147



since cta with hs is allowed ofc = 4 hs , i doubt that anyone would be that childish to prebuff for +1 holy shield ...
an es sorc without 95% es , is a crap sorc , and for that you need at least 14 base points ... for firesorc it means already a 30% damage reduced , from 20k to ~14-15 k
i could say that 600 coldstack @ nm is bm cause you take the only advantage that foh`er & cold sorcs have , but i can`t since i can`t find that euro pvp league regulament


You got me wrong, thast wasnt my point.
But there are Pala builds around which just need to Put 1 Pt in hs.
So i could make a pala without wasting a skillpoint in hs (saves the skills you need to get throu aswell like holybolt,hammer ect)
And when it comes to duel you just prebuff with a 5+ cta scpeter (there are magic ones or you put in some 2+ skill rw in a 5sock 3+ scept)

So your pala Got hs without wasting any pts there.
Gives some advantage .
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Quote (eXeeXe @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 05:50pm)
You got me wrong, thast wasnt my point.
But there are Pala builds around which just need to Put 1 Pt in hs.
So i could make a pala without wasting a skillpoint in hs (saves the skills you need to get throu aswell like holybolt,hammer ect)
And when it comes to duel you just prebuff with a 5+ cta scpeter (there are magic ones or you put in some 2+ skill rw in a 5sock 3+ scept)

So your pala Got hs without wasting any pts there.
Gives some advantage .


well , since palas have cta already ... would be np as far as i care , my pala have 0 holy shield , my ex bearzon used prebuff with beast just to morph then switched to grief pb ... same with the bearsorc too , same with wwsins with +1 sm claws / +1 blade shield claws
but i can`t find any sorc who doesn`t have at least 5 phisical points in es

This post was edited by brainpower777 on Aug 13 2009 09:54am
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Aug 13 2009 09:55am
imo 400 total resi (not stack only) should be allowed. that's enough for any char imo
and my prob. on hdong is i can't use wizzy cos i got too many resists then, so i can't use a raven at all
and then 400 resi (275 stack) is just fair~
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Quote (nobody367 @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 05:55pm)
imo 400 total resi (not stack only) should be allowed. that's enough for any char imo
and my prob. on hdong is i can't use wizzy cos i got too many resists then, so i can't use a raven at all
and then 400 resi (275 stack) is just fair~


well , 275 stack would allow you to have + 90% real cold resistance + 1 raven = you could stand 2 minutes in front of my orb sorc w/o to die

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Quote (brainpower777 @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 04:53pm)
well , since palas have cta already ... would be np as far as i care , my pala have 0 holy shield , my ex bearzon used prebuff with beast just to morph then switched to grief pb ... same with the bearsorc too , same with wwsins with +1 sm claws / +1 blade shield claws
but i can`t find any sorc who doesn`t have at least 5 phisical points in es


Well ok anyway i said i dotn rly mind prebuff its np.
But some things im not sure about.

1. rules you posted says 250/raven you said stack limited 180 but msut be 185 or do i get it wrong?
2. As i sue Grief on one slot and wizzy/hoto on other slot my res varies so am i allowed to use res aura on second slot even tho i got max stack tt first slot?
3. I found some issue int he rules you posted, as they say No auras which regen life. If yous croll down you find , medi/prayer/Cleansing is allowed as long you didnt spent more than 1 pt in prayer. But all those auras regen life, so what ?
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