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Jun 2 2009 03:29pm
Quote (LjCgg @ Tue, Jun 2 2009, 04:23pm)
How much AR does a Zealer need in order to be effective?

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All depends on your build and who you're facing.

I've done well with 15-16k ar and have done shitty with 22-24k

I've also done very well with high ar and very shitty with low ar.

Beauty about zeal is that there's so many possibilities and variations.
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All depends on your build and who you're facing.

I've done well with 15-16k ar  and have done shitty with 22-24k

I've also done very well with high ar and very shitty with low ar.

Beauty about zeal is that there's so many possibilities and variations.


Its what I like about zeal :)

Basically my problem was IAS, this is my wep: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=31647876&f=54
I was using Angelics and has 40k ar with this but I didnt have enough IAS

So i was going to sell but instead i was thinking of trying out highlords / rfrost / rare ring.
That way I wouldnt have to Cham my circ, I could use 15/40 in it and put a Lo rune in my wep :) whilst hitting the right ias :D

Even w/o angelics I have 26k ar which is pretty good, Im using a mixure of ar/life and max/ar/life. so thats probably why lol
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Quote (LjCgg @ Tue, Jun 2 2009, 04:34pm)
Its what I like about zeal :)

Basically my problem was IAS, this is my wep: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=31647876&f=54
I was using Angelics and has 40k ar with this but I didnt have enough IAS

So i was going to sell but instead i was thinking of trying out highlords / rfrost / rare ring.
That way I wouldnt have to Cham my circ, I could use 15/40 in it and put a Lo rune in my wep :) whilst hitting the right ias :D

Even w/o angelics I have 26k ar which is pretty good, Im using a mixure of ar/life and max/ar/life. so thats probably why lol


40k ar is definite overkill.

The whole point of using a fool's weapon and/or visionary is so that you aren't limited to angelics and can use highlords for the 1skill, 20ias, and most importantly the DEADLY STRIKE.

When using highlords, 2x ravens are pretty much a given. Don't use a rare ring
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Jun 2 2009 03:38pm
Quote (conanman @ Tue, Jun 2 2009, 02:37pm)
40k ar is definite overkill.

The whole point of using a fool's weapon and/or visionary is so that you aren't limited to angelics and can use highlords for the 1skill, 20ias, and most importantly the DEADLY STRIKE.

When using highlords, 2x ravens are pretty much a given. Don't use a rare ring


i would only use a rare ring so i could use sacred prudence. without SS

anyone wanna zeal pk ladder?
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Quote (conanman @ Tue, 2 Jun 2009, 22:37)
40k ar is definite overkill.

The whole point of using a fool's weapon and/or visionary is so that you aren't limited to angelics and can use highlords for the 1skill, 20ias, and most importantly the DEADLY STRIKE.

When using highlords, 2x ravens are pretty much a given. Don't use a rare ring


Yeah deadly strike/cb is what im lacking, I dont really like using edc so I only get the ds/cb from my gores (im using rare gloves) , So highlords would be good for this aswell

Should I use this or another raven

147ar
5life leech
11str
12dex
13 light res
2 light radius
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Jun 2 2009 03:41pm
Quote (LjCgg @ Tue, Jun 2 2009, 02:40pm)
Yeah deadly strike/cb is what im lacking, I dont really like using edc so I only get the ds/cb from my gores (im using rare gloves) , So highlords would be good for this aswell

Should I use this or another raven

147ar
5life leech
11str
12dex
13 light res
2 light radius


147 ar? thats redic hi

but lacking life and needs higher stats imo ><
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Quote (Da5Id1an @ Tue, 2 Jun 2009, 22:41)
147 ar? thats redic hi

but lacking life and needs higher stats imo ><


its prelod item on classic :)
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Quote (Da5Id1an @ Tue, Jun 2 2009, 04:41pm)
147 ar? thats redic hi

but lacking life and needs higher stats imo ><


big time.

the only exception i would make for a rare ring over a perf raven is 5%ar 120+ar 15dex 50+life with min or max dmg as possible replacement of 5%ar

other than that raven > all rare rings. 250ar/20dex/cbf is boss

you should also be aware that ds is what you want for zeal pk, not so much cb at all. cb can be quite detrimental when your opponent has less than half life

This post was edited by conanman on Jun 2 2009 03:44pm
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Quote (conanman @ Tue, Jun 2 2009, 02:43pm)
big time.

the only exception i would make for a rare ring over a perf raven is 5%ar 120+ar 15dex 50+life with min or max dmg as possible replacement of 5%ar

other than that raven > all rare rings. 250ar/20dex/cbf is boss

you should also be aware that ds is what you want for zeal pk, not so much cb at all.  cb can be quite detrimental when your opponent has less than half life


im told that +%ds off items and ds based on level calculates and procs differently is that true?
and if so like using hilords and edc can you get doubel ds hit? proc the regular ds then the ds off level?
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im told that +%ds off items and ds based on level calculates and procs differently is that true?
and if so like using hilords and edc can you get doubel ds hit? proc the regular ds then the ds off level?


i'll be using about 50% ds from gores and highlords, is that good.. or enough?
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