no where in our conversation did i EVER say ps3 > xbox 360.

i'm simply pointing out that you are misdirecting your blame.

you blame Sony because you bought one of their discontinued items
from an independent seller and it doesn't function as well as a brand new
ps3 that you would purchase from an authorized dealer such as Best Buy

Sony recognized a flaw in their design and fixed it
you chose to purchase the model that was released before
these improvements were made.

No, they discontinued the ps3 backwards compatible ones because they only wanted them available for a limited time to hype up sales and get people interested, it's cheaper for them to not make them backwards compatible, which is why they stopped. need another example? the 360, they didnt do backwards compatible at all to save money, only a select few games could be played.
it wasnt because of a malfunction.

you guys are a bunch of noobs..


Nintendo Wii > 360 and ps3..

Once again you're arguing a point I am not arguing. I didn't say Sony stopped making the PS3'd backwards compatible because it was causing a flaw.
I am simply saying that there is a flaw in the design of the PS3's that were backwards compatible.

If you want to argue that point, yes Sony stopped producing the backwards compatible model and what followed?
a huge price drop.

And yes, Microsoft's plan was to beat the PS3 on the price playing field. Microsoft figured they would make a system @ half the price
of the PS3 and that would attract more customers. Look at the playing field now and compare.

xbox 360 elite: 300 dollars, 120 gb, no blu-ray
playstation 3: 300 dollars, 120 gb, blu-ray

so now you're paying the same price for a system
without a blu-ray player compared to one that has it included

i didn't intend to make this a ps3 > xbox360 discussion but if you would like it to go there, we can go there.

it's all personal opinion, it really is. like i say it time and time again when these arguments arise, wherever they are:
You want a gaming experience, go with the xbox
you want a all arount entertainment system, go with ps3
you want a easy going fun time with interactive gaming, go with Wii



i'm just pissed i'm out $600 total is all. I've had nothing but bad experiences with sony products, well playstations anyway.




To be honest, it seems like you are flipping everything around, you clearly said it's my fault for buying a product sony discontinued due to flaws. I said they didn't discontinue it because of flaws, but because of money. then you say i turned it into a xbox>ps debate, how the hell did i do that? i was just correcting you when you said they discontinued their system due to flaws when it was because of money, not flaws. which means i defended the ps3(OMG!!! because i look at everything faily) and i used the xbox as another example of lowering costs by not going backwards compatible.

i didn't "go there" at all.


This post was edited by 1uke on Feb 2 2010 06:41am

lol i thought wiis where for like kids

idk never played 1

and your misfortunes are exactly what they are: unfortunate
if you had purchased a ps3 from an authorized retailer and this happened to you
i'd probably pity you a lot more than i do now and feel like you were "gyp'd" by sony
but the fact is, Sony didn't gyp you, it was a risk to purchase a ps3 from eebay and unfortunately
the risk did not fall in your favor. Sorry for your loss.

from what i no (im probably wrong idk)
xbox is better for online gaming and ps3 is a better console (if not equal but better specs?)

Yes, i bought it off eeebay, but i made sure the factory seal wasnt broken(meaning sony is the only ones that did any work on this ps3). it wasnt refurbished or touched up in any way. I was smart the way i bought it, i did the research, knowing there is always a possiblity of a system failure, and by making sure it wasnt refurbished guaranteed i could get it fixed by sony.
it is sony's fault for it breaking down, they did something wrong in the programming, or the lense broke. Or maybe the lense is just dusty(i doubt that, but in that case would not be their fault).
I went through all these precautions, but i didnt think it would actually break down, and the fact ive had it for 4 months or so without any problems pretty much shows that buying it off eeebay was not the problem, the lense probably went bad, which is what happened to all my playstations.

This post was edited by 1uke on Feb 2 2010 06:49am

luke, go back a few pages and take a look at who mentioned ps3 vs. xbox 360 first. it was you.

and secondly, i wasn't attacking you, i was defending sony.
you blamed sony for your misfortune with your current ps3.
i told you it's not their fault you chose to buy an outdated version
from a private seller who is not an authorized sony dealer

if the coca-cola analogy doesn't sit well with you, look at it this way:

say Toyota releases a Corolla model that has electronic locks/windows
and cruise-control but the electronic locks/windows features break after 2 years.

people complain about this and Toyota fixes the situation in next year's model
but cruise-control is no longer an included feature for corollas

someone decides they really like cruise-control and buys last year's Corolla model
from a used car dealer. 2 years after purchasing the car, the electronic locks/windows
no longer work.

Toyota cannot be held responsible for your choice as a consumer since it's not like
they can go back in time and change the design of last year's Corolla.