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#16341
Dec 29 2009 10:39pm
Quote (coolz @ Dec 29 2009 10:24pm)
Haha, not just your day. I am also confused.

To further explain the situation, she got mad over a statement I made, which I believe to be true.

Upon me stating it, she left.

What I'm confused about tho is how her being mad at me for making such a statement affects my ownership or co-ownership of the guilds LS items.

Ah well, to be fair about it, it doesnt matter now. Soon she'll be owner of a new guild, so no way to transfer any of those items to me.

She's gone, so is my fg and with it, Paradise Lost.


im in disbelief about this whole ordeal...i have no idea whats going on...i think its crazy that all of us angels have to be in the middle :(
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Dec 29 2009 10:41pm
Quote (bobbarkersworld @ Dec 30 2009 05:39am)
im in disbelief about this whole ordeal...i have no idea whats going on...i think its crazy that all of us angels have to be in the middle :(


I'm very sorry that Lesley kicked you out of this guild because I left, he should not have done that,

My leaving, shouldn't have any bearing on the rest of you, I'm very sorry for his actions.
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Dec 29 2009 10:41pm
Quote (Marooned @ 30 Dec 2009 05:38)
Mine and your private conversation on msn, doesn't have any bearing what so ever on your kicking everyone from this guild

and making it seem like I stole all of my ladder slasher items, why are you punishing an entire guild, because I left?

if people wanted to leave this guild, you should have let THEM make that decision, NOT kick everyone from it, and why did you donate me

all of your fg, when you could have used it to pay for guild points, how does ME having my own slasher items have any bearing what so ever

on you not being able to pay for guild points? what you expect me to sell the items so you can have fg to pay for guild points?

here is a copy of my fg log, I will s/s if it's absolutely needed.

Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:59:07 AM Mottaget 925.02 (1,102.92 -> 2,027.94) from coolz (925.02 -> 0.00) Wont have a use for this


I sent you my last bit of fg, since you took everything else from me, yes. I wont have any use for it anymore.

Those are not your items and you know it.

Without you, there is no Paradise Lost. Consequense of that is that every member has to leave. I have sent them all a pm explaining the situation.

Quote (Marooned @ 30 Dec 2009 05:41)
I'm very sorry that Lesley kicked you out of this guild because I left, he should not have done that,

My leaving, shouldn't have any bearing on the rest of you, I'm very sorry for his actions.


Amazing how you can still play the victim AND make me look like the bad guy all at once.

I disbanned the guild. It is no longer a part of the D2jsp community, while its previous members still are. They have to go and I hope most of the good people in this guild will find a spot in your guild.

Quote (Marooned @ 30 Dec 2009 05:43)
well I'm done posting here, your actions are rediculous to punish an entire guild because I left, and I still have no idea what you're going on about

me having my own ladder slasher items, and not being able to pay for guild points, you shouldn't have sent me your fg, I'm done here

evidence has been posted, 2 facts remain, you kicked everyone from the guild, you sent me your fg.


You forgot the part where you took ALL the items I invested in more than you did and by that, took away what I've been building up for the past 1,5 years, completely ruining me ^_^

This post was edited by coolz on Dec 29 2009 10:47pm
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Dec 29 2009 10:43pm
Quote (coolz @ Dec 30 2009 05:41am)
I sent you my last bit of fg, since you took everything else from me, yes. I wont have any use for it anymore.

Those are not your items and you know it.

Without you, there is no Paradise Lost. Consequense of that is that every member has to leave. I have sent them all a pm explaining the situation.


well I'm done posting here, your actions are rediculous to punish an entire guild because I left, and I still have no idea what you're going on about

me having my own ladder slasher items, and not being able to pay for guild points, you shouldn't have sent me your fg, I'm done here

evidence has been posted, 2 facts remain, you kicked everyone from the guild, you sent me your fg.
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Dec 29 2009 10:53pm
Quote (coolz @ Dec 29 2009 10:41pm)
I sent you my last bit of fg, since you took everything else from me, yes. I wont have any use for it anymore.

Those are not your items and you know it.

Without you, there is no Paradise Lost. Consequense of that is that every member has to leave. I have sent them all a pm explaining the situation.


I never got a pm explaining what was going on. All I come to find when I log on was I had no guild anymore.

I can't believe how this has been all handled from someone who is supposedly a guild leader. I agree that this was a very unfair way to have handled your very own situation.
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Dec 29 2009 10:55pm
Quote (PhoenixTears @ 30 Dec 2009 05:53)
I never got a pm explaining what was going on. All I come to find when I log on was I had no guild anymore.

I can't believe how this has been all handled from someone who is supposedly a guild leader. I agree that this was a very unfair way to have handled your very own situation.


I contacted you on msn. Thats why I didnt send you a pm and dont try to make me look like a bad guy, I know you're sticking up for Marina, but you would have left the instant you saw she was gone anyway.

Anyway, I'm going to bed. This will be closed when Paparick comes back online.

Any further questions, complaints or concerns can be pm'd to me.

This post was edited by coolz on Dec 29 2009 10:57pm
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Dec 29 2009 10:59pm
Quote (coolz @ Dec 29 2009 10:55pm)
I contacted you on msn. Thats why I didnt send you a pm and dont try to make me look like a bad guy, I know you're sticking up for Marina, but you would have left the instant you saw she was gone anyway.


You contacted me after the fact that this has all been said and done. You contacted me a while after you had posted that first bit(post 16337)

And why kick me? You haven't the slightest idea of what type of decision I would have made, why not even give me a choice to just leave if my choice had been that?

Same goes for everyone else who was in this guild. Just because one leaves doesn't mean they all will.

Just because you can't pay for guild points doesn't mean that everyone will leave. There are some kind people on here who would most likely still continue helping here.

But you didn't give them a chance or a choice.
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Dec 29 2009 11:04pm
Quote (PhoenixTears @ 30 Dec 2009 05:59)
You contacted me after the fact that this has all been said and done. You contacted me a while after you had posted that first bit(post 16337)

And why kick me? You haven't the slightest idea of what type of decision I would have made, why not even give me a choice to just leave if my choice had been that?

Same goes for everyone else who was in this guild. Just because one leaves doesn't mean they all will.

Just because you can't pay for guild points doesn't mean that everyone will leave. There are some kind people on here who would most likely still continue helping here.

But you didn't give them a chance or a choice.


I disbanned Paradise Lost, it no longer is a part of the D2jsp Community! How much more specific need I be?

I chose to clean the guildlist, that was my discission and its also a right I have as a guildleader.

And yes, I do know what kind of discission you would make.
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#16349
Dec 30 2009 12:29am
All right then I guess what's done is done. It was fun while it lasted and I dont really mind that the guild is done. GL to everyone in the future and thanks Les and Mar for the good times.
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#16350
Dec 30 2009 12:58am
Ow this brings pain to my heart even i was 3 days in it i must say this was the best guild ever! njah :-)

Good luck u guys

Btw lesley i'm willing to help u out with the guild if u like that?

This post was edited by MicChick on Dec 30 2009 12:59am
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