Quote (Atranaxia @ 16 Dec 2011 08:39)
most kezdtem el sc2 őzni, az 5 meccsből 3 mat nyertem, gold league ba dobott be.
mivel mostt kezdtem el noob zerg vagyok, és lenne pár noob kérdésem.
nem lehetne visszamenni valahogy copper vagy silver leagueba? mert itt eléggé aláznak
mi a legjobb mód arra hogy odafigyeljünk hogy egyből bespickuljuk a lárvákat a hecsbe? mert kb 3 percenként ha eszembe jut (hotkeyre állítom pedig a queenekeket)
csak rohadt sokat kéne gyakorolni?
ahogy látom ezen a szinten mindenki rushra megy, hogy lehet ez ellen a legjobban védekezni? hiába csinálok banelingeket marinek/marauderek ellen, mindig kikapják az összeset és a lingek meg szarra se jók magukban, hiába van speedem banelingen is.
protossnál sima stalkerek is elvernek, nem látom esélyét védekezni ellenük, főleg ha még jön 1-2 colossus is.
tudna valaki adni pár kezdő tippet? nagyon megköszönném
anno volt 1 tanitvanyom, ezt neki irtam még, de neked is segithet. angolul irtam, remelem nem baj. 1-2 dolog mar nem up to date azért,de diamond liga alatt még mindig érvényben van. ( 330 napos ez a levél
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so lets start at the beginning - some basic opening build order:
as a zerg u
make drones till 9 supply, then overlord ( not at 10 ). u dont need the gas that eraly. there is some opening u need to know:
1.
15 hatch 14 pool ( meaning u get the expo before u would build anything else ) whit this build u'll make an extractor around ~17 supply, it will delay ur speedling research
2.
14 pool 14 extractor 15 hatch ( 1. u get the pool a bit more safe , and u'll still have quite strong economy) u'll get enough gas for speed when the pool pops out. always make at least 4 zerglings then along whit the speed.
3.
14 pool 15 extractor, after that pump drones, 1 more overlord. when pool pops out start queen, speed, 4 lings (u'll have enough resources for this ) then start to save for the hatchery. ~this means 21 supply.
mainly u only need to memorise these buildorders above. but DO that. as zerg u NEED larva. get the queen as soon as possible in the main AND ur expension. remember - queens give u extra larvee and good early air defense - its always worth to keep at least 3 queen ( 1-1 each base to inject, 1 to spread creep )
So dont go staith to lair, u cannot produce anything worth it yet. speedlings / roach can deal any early attack whit queen support.
after u get a natural, u always wanna transfer some of ur drones to there. it will give u more income. and as zerg u'll need as much gas as u can get, so grab all 4 exactor when u have the saturation & the tech to build expensive units (like hydra )
one important thing about zerg: u always need to be ahead at least 1 base vs terran or protoss, else u'll be behind alrdy. u had extra minerals u could spend, so then just gran an other expansion.bust the rocks and go for it, its easlily defendable after u could hold on to ur 2. and as zerg u dont rly wanna attack. this race is about responding to ur enemy. droning as hard as u can still u got ~75ish drone whit 3-4-5 base at least. if he is turtleing thats good. but NEED to get more expension, u cannot get stuck on 2 bases.
and since zerg is about responding need to scout !!!!! good time to send an overlord in: is ~6 min ( mainly this is when they decide which tech will they choose ). u need corruptors vs colossus.
a good combination vs protos mainly : speedlings into roaches later add hydras ( good mix is after every 3. roach u add 1 hydra ) and then tech to corruptors and in the late game -> brood lords.
also u wanna focus fire the priority units! colossus > immortal > gateway units.
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vs protoss:
early attack -> speedling if he does 4 gate, try to get roaches to counter zealot heavy pushes. vs stalker speedling is enough. (early) make at least 1-2 spine at ur natural. in ur league ALWAYS build it, they will rush anyway.
later on transfer to roach/hydra army (3/1 composition) when he transist into colossus -> corruptors.if u dont get corruptors in time, he will eat ur army.(like 1. game) if gets late - broodlords
counter to blinkstalkers: infestors whit roaches
vs terran:
early rax pressure: mass speedlings, if its delayed a bit get banelings later on trans into mutaplay, its the best in pvt. be carefull whit thors and marines, then can be a threat. search on youtube for "magic box" trick vs thors.
helions: roaches!!
if he goes mass mech (thor,tank,helion) mass roach whit infestors (natural parasite the thors, its insane)
but mainly speedling+bane+muta is the ideal.
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SUM: u need to learn that zerg is an eco based race, play defensive till they attack. if u defend it u can counter. but if he is just turtleing dont even attack till u maxxed out. Keep up ur upgrades. lvl1 carrapest is rly good vs terran ( they wont 1 shoot zerglings/banelings whit tanks) for air always get mainly attack upgrades, cause u'll use them for harass so u need as much dps as u can get.
remelem segit vmit