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Dec 12 2011 07:57am
I'm not sure if the new mm system is any better than the old

so far i've played 9 games, 4 of them I had a disconnected partner and 3 of them I was disconnected at the picking phase

I lost all 7 of those games due to the fact that when I get disconnected from the picking phase it gives me heros that I use the least and in turn I'm not very good with them, and 4v5 isn't really a competition unless all your team functions correctly and you have a good squad for the situation

in short, I'm not pleased with the changes. I don't like the new creeps, heros should be easily distinguished from creeps and the creeps design are just too bright/flashy

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Dec 12 2011 10:13am
The MMR change is bullshit.

There were a couple problems with the old system.

1) high rated players made a bunch of free accounts to stomp people in basic games
-this pisses off the low rated players
-high rated players did this because there were long queues at the 1850+ level

2)high rated players had long queue times

3)lower rated players complained about queue times


These are all valid problems, so lets see how S2 addressed them in this patch.

1) S2 made it so you gain/lose a lot more MMR in your first 20 or so games. You gain/lose around 20 MMR for each match. If you're stomping these noobs, you'd hit 1700 in 10-14 games, and those games are harder to stomp. This works in theory, but i don't think it will stop people from grinding out lvl 2 accounts to get the referral bonus. This change is a step in the right direction, but i think there will still be rampant amounts of smurfing.

2) This new MM change allows people to choose between fast queue times by having a wider range of rated players join the game, and it lets you choose a longer queue time to have a smaller range of rated players join the game. This change doesn't really do shit for high rated players. It's only available if you're team queuing, so solo queuers get fucked. Plus this isn't an improvement over the old system if you wanted people your same rating. If you want shorter queue times for 1900s, you need more fucking 1900s. There are only, ~2000 1900 rated players, and not all of those are unique accounts since people have created multiple 1900+ rated accounts. S2 could have used this MMR change to have a big announcement about a ladder reset and tried to get more people to join their fucking game. In open beta it peaked at 65k players online. Now it's only 35k from europe and the americas. S2 fucking dropped the ball. This doesn't help high rated MMR players at all. Now they have to stomp shitty rated players to get back their rating, which will supposedly be harder to do this time.

3) The slider bar that lets you choose how long you want to wait in a queue lets people join games faster. But low rated players didn't have much of an issue with queue times since there are lots of them.


This change really didn't do shit. It stops people from cranking out lvl 5 basic accounts, but not lvl 2 basic accounts. High rated players still have long queue times, and have to play one sided games since they compressed MMR. Queue times are shorter, but it's because they compressed all the ratings, so it's easier to match people with similar ratings together. Just wait till people hit 1900-2000 again, the queue times will be as long as before. S2 is a fucking joke. They're fucking awful don't buy gold coins from that piece of shit company. If they wanted to touch MMR, they should have just reset the whole thing. So you won't have pissed off players since you fucked their stats. Now i'm 1650 rating and 59% win, where as before I was 1850 with 59% win. They should have just reset everyone down to 1500. They didn't do that because they wouldn't get money from people who reset their stats.

Fuck S2 games, I hope Riot continues to cannibalize their shitty operation.
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Dec 12 2011 10:30am
TL:DR rickster mad.
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Dec 12 2011 11:51am
Quote (garbo @ Dec 12 2011 08:30am)
fuck s2 games


that's right
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Dec 12 2011 11:54am
the mmr change is nothing since it doesnt effect the actual gameplay

which changing like 60 hotkey shop combination does
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Dec 12 2011 11:56am
Quote (UndeadGad @ Dec 12 2011 09:54am)
the mmr change is nothing since it doesnt effect the actual gameplay

which changing like 60 hotkey shop combination does


wow you're bad

you're playing with 1600s which you never did on your 2000 rated accounts
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Dec 12 2011 12:05pm
Quote (prickster @ 12 Dec 2011 18:56)
wow you're bad

you're playing with 1600s which you never did on your 2000 rated accounts


everyone at 2k rating was playing like 1600 so it's the same
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Dec 12 2011 12:14pm
Quote (UndeadGad @ Dec 12 2011 10:05am)
everyone at 2k rating was playing like 1600 so it's the same


then they should have reset everyone to 1500
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Dec 12 2011 12:17pm
Quote (prickster @ 12 Dec 2011 19:14)
then they should have reset everyone to 1500


who the fuck cares about getting lower mmr,
if you dont like having low mmr you can go and play and get higher mmr there problem solved

entire fucking shop is fucked up
go do something about it, o wait you fucking cant


and even if somebody would make a mod for it, it still wouldnt be usable in tournament games
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Dec 12 2011 12:26pm
honestly every patch this game gets more retarded

its just hilarious sometimes, only reason i play it
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