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Aug 6 2011 05:21am
Think about back in beta, this game was awesome. Mostly dota heroes, some pretty cool S2 heroes, and totally free to play and mess around. Then after release it was still good. Though S2 failed to live up to a bunch of promises, we still had new dota ports coming out quite often. It seems like S2 still didn't care about money back then, since even though accounts cost $30, the stats reset for $20 were glitched for months, allowing you to use a method to get a reset but not have your CC charged. I bet S2 lost hundreds of thousands over this, since I got like $200 out of it and rykon probably got $2000+ alone. I guess they thought they would make it big and would be around for a long time, making way more money from publicity + tourneys + new customers.

Then the whole legal thing comes along when S2 tried to port Furion. Valve pretty much owned them legally, not only saying they couldn't copy heroes, but not even the IDEAs of heroes. That's a pretty far stretch of copyright, but Valve just had way better lawyers I guess. Ever since that point S2 went to shit. I guess they realized they couldn't compete with Valve and DotA2. Think about it, soon after that HoN 2.0 comes out. The stats reset glitch is fixed, and people can purchase coins already before they can even earn them with TMM.

More and more expensive shit comes to the store. MSIvy slither, badass pack, etc., basically forcing you to purchase coins to buy them. Then, right before Valve announces the huge tourney publicly (I'm sure there was already talk aout it within the game developer community), S2 makes HoN f2p. Why? It's more money in the short run for them. Not many people were buying HoN anymore anyway, since Valve's DotA2 was known to be coming out very soon. Getting 100,000s of LoL players for free who would probably spend $$ on the shop was the fastest way to make a quick buck.

All this basically points to S2 knowing that DotA2 will completely crush their game. So, my question is, why are people still defending HoN when the company that designs it has already given up on it?

This post was edited by sMACKTRiCKz on Aug 6 2011 05:21am
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Aug 6 2011 05:27am
Word. Concur with everything you just said.
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Aug 6 2011 05:46am
hon got bad for me the when they added gold coins

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Aug 6 2011 05:53am
Although I agreed HoN is dying, why such a hater?
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Aug 6 2011 09:03am
i always said s2 are joke.
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Aug 6 2011 10:11am
the game was good be4 they made stupid ass changes i mean the game itself still is good but s2 is a fucking joke

main reason for me going dota2 is actually
1 i rly wanna play dota but the engien is so terribad
2 s2 dont deserve my time there
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Aug 6 2011 10:17am
Quote (UndeadGad @ Aug 6 2011 05:11pm)
the game was good be4 they made stupid ass changes i mean the game itself still is good but s2 is a fucking joke

main reason for me going dota2 is actually
1 i rly wanna play dota but the engien is so terribad
2 s2 dont deserve my time there


game is OK i guess just can't stand company and how they are just milking money at the expense of players

+ the new heroes are so garbage, totally ruining the game
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Aug 6 2011 10:20am
Quote (sMACKTRiCKz @ Aug 6 2011 06:21am)
Think about back in beta, this game was awesome. Mostly dota heroes, some pretty cool S2 heroes, and totally free to play and mess around. Then after release it was still good. Though S2 failed to live up to a bunch of promises, we still had new dota ports coming out quite often. It seems like S2 still didn't care about money back then, since even though accounts cost $30, the stats reset for $20 were glitched for months, allowing you to use a method to get a reset but not have your CC charged. I bet S2 lost hundreds of thousands over this, since I got like $200 out of it and rykon probably got $2000+ alone. I guess they thought they would make it big and would be around for a long time, making way more money from publicity + tourneys + new customers.

Then the whole legal thing comes along when S2 tried to port Furion. Valve pretty much owned them legally, not only saying they couldn't copy heroes, but not even the IDEAs of heroes. That's a pretty far stretch of copyright, but Valve just had way better lawyers I guess. Ever since that point S2 went to shit. I guess they realized they couldn't compete with Valve and DotA2. Think about it, soon after that HoN 2.0 comes out. The stats reset glitch is fixed, and people can purchase coins already before they can even earn them with TMM.

More and more expensive shit comes to the store. MSIvy slither, badass pack, etc., basically forcing you to purchase coins to buy them. Then, right before Valve announces the huge tourney publicly (I'm sure there was already talk aout  it within the game developer community), S2 makes HoN f2p. Why? It's more money in the short run for them. Not many people were buying HoN anymore anyway, since Valve's DotA2 was known to be coming out very soon. Getting 100,000s of LoL players for free who would probably spend $$ on the shop was the fastest way to make a quick buck.

All this basically points to S2 knowing that DotA2 will completely crush their game. So, my question is, why are people still defending HoN when the company that designs it has already given up on it?


Most of the players hate S2 but love the game why ?
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game is OK i guess just can't stand company and how they are just milking money at the expense of players

+ the new heroes are so garbage, totally ruining the game


yes on boths but the new heroes dont really effect "high tier" games that much so for me it's fine

and yeah s2 dont deserve any money, maybe if they would do something right i would actually support the company

i mean like downtimes for example
"estimated downtime 12 hours"
2 days later it's still not fucking working
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