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Mar 15 2011 01:50am
Honestly, free wards, invisible ganks, and huge range ult

I've only played like 10 games of HoN but as I've started playing scout more I've carried games pretty easily with ganks and map awareness. Yet 1/3 games someone rages and will pick other invis so that other team buys one eye and counters our whole team

Anyway, that aside I was curious if this is a good build order

I go +6 str bracelet + blight stone(?) at start

then go back when i can get steam marchers (I think, the ones with +10 str and can cycle)

then go back for the axe that does splash + mana regen

then either make the shield breaker item or go for butterfly I think it's called

I don't really know names since I didn't play DotA really
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Mar 15 2011 02:05am
because scout got nothing to give during laning phase/mid game
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Mar 15 2011 02:07am
Quote (UndeadGad @ Mar 15 2011 01:05am)
because scout got nothing to give during laning phase/mid game


Isn't that basically any carry? Plus how are free wards not giving anything early/mid game? Not to mention easy harassment with stealth give a few hits and run back >.>

idk maybe im missing somethin once i get my spash axe i usually free farm ~3-4 minutes then really start hitting team fights hard
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Mar 15 2011 02:21am
Quote (zetswei @ Mar 15 2011 03:07am)
Isn't that basically any carry? Plus how are free wards not giving anything early/mid game? Not to mention easy harassment with stealth give a few hits and run back >.>

idk maybe im missing somethin once i get my spash axe i usually free farm ~3-4 minutes then really start hitting team fights hard


as soon as you try to harass, a good team will jump on you the instant you come out of invis, stun lock and kill; they'll probably have dust/wards too.
free wards? scout ward spots are pretty obvious and can be easily countered, either removing the free wards or forcing scout to spend more time walking to spots

only thing I see useful early on is a clutch silence / revelation eye
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Mar 15 2011 02:25am
Quote (samkxu @ Mar 15 2011 01:21am)
as soon as you try to harass, a good team will jump on you the instant you come out of invis, stun lock and kill; they'll probably have dust/wards too.
free wards? scout ward spots are pretty obvious and can be easily countered, either removing the free wards or forcing scout to spend more time walking to spots

only thing I see useful early on is a clutch silence / revelation eye


iunno i put them in the same place I'd put a normal ward >.> usually put one in jungle somewhere one at rune and then use other to silence etc

my mmr is only 1494 so maybe that's why :) my first 3 games i lost going like 1/10/3, 1/9/6, 2/4/5 then i've won the last 3 going 7/1/9, 7/0/7, and 13/3/4 though. Somewhat difficult to get into the swing of things, I tried forsaken archer but her attacks seemed really slow for someone just learning the heros. Woud you suggest anyone else?
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Mar 15 2011 03:24am
play more support heroes first
and heroes who can control more than 1 unit like ophelia/hellbringer

i´m around 1500 mmr too..and i see that noobs always pick carry and fail
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Mar 15 2011 03:39am
Cause people usually prejudge him, since they have bad experience with people choosing scout and stealing every single kill. :)
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Mar 15 2011 03:54am
you're not building him right
rush codex level 2
get spellshards 1
codex 5
spellshards 3
portal key
gg
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Mar 15 2011 04:07am
Quote (zetswei @ 15 Mar 2011 09:07)
Isn't that basically any carry? Plus how are free wards not giving anything early/mid game? Not to mention easy harassment with stealth give a few hits and run back >.>

idk maybe im missing somethin once i get my spash axe i usually free farm ~3-4 minutes then really start hitting team fights hard


swiftblade
madman
forsaken archer
zephyr
puppet chronos
valkyrie
pesti
maliken
panda
pred

are all carries/semi carries with ALOT more presence both in laning phase and midgame
all though scout is one of the hardest melee carry ingame, but as i said be4 he suckballs in midgame/laning phase and if you're playing against any decent player that have half a brain they know you cant do shit for 20 min and they will just take out 6 towers, get a 10000 gold lead and fuck you in the ass
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Mar 15 2011 05:01am
learn support b4 carry, it worked wonders for me, ive been carrying much better because i know how support works and when to go in
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