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The madman hardcarry/ganker


Starting Stats

Attack = Melee
Base damage = 47-51
Range = 100
Attacks per second = 0.72
Movementspeed = 300
Life = 492
Mana = 182
Armor: 3.22
Magic Armor: 5.5
health regen 0.79
mana regen 0.57
Strength: 17
Agility: 23 (Primary stat)
Intelligence: 14


Stats gain per level
Str per level: 2.1
Agi per level: 2.75 (Primary stat)
Int per level: 1.5


Level 25 stats
Damage = 133-137
Attacks per second = 1.176
Attacks per second = 1.818 ( level 3 berserk activated )
Life = 1822
Armor 15.26
Mana = 910
health regen 2.89
mana regen 2.81
Strenght 88
Agility 109 (Primary stat)
Intelligence 70



Stalk
Action
Target Self
Radius: 175
Mana Cost: 60
Cooldown: 12.0 / 10.0 / 8.0 / 6.0 Seconds
Required Level: 1 / 3 / 5 / 7
Activation
Applies Stalk to self for 4 seconds. Deals 90 / 100 / 110 / 120 Magic damage to enemies who pass within radius of self.
Stalk Effects




Barrel roll
Action > Target Position
Type > Enemy Units
Type: Magic
Range: 400 / 465 / 530 / 600
Radius: 175
Cast Time: 0.1 Seconds
Mana Cost: 110
Cooldown: 13.0 Seconds
Required Level: 1 / 3 / 5 / 7
Activation
Quickly transports self to target position, then back to original position. Enemies who pass within radius of self are damaged for 100 / 160 / 220 / 280 Magic damage and applies Barrel Rolled for 3.5 seconds.
Barrel Rolled Effects
30 / 37 / 44 / 50% Movement Slow

Gash
Passive
10/18/22/28% for 2x crit.

Berserk
Action > Target Self
Type: Magic
Mana Cost: 50 / 80 / 110
Cooldown: 55.0 Seconds
Required Level: 6 / 11 / 16
Activation
Applies Berserk to self for 30 seconds.
Berserk Effects
40 / 80 / 120 Attack Speed
5 / 7 / 9% Movement Speed


Skill build:
1. Stalk
2. Barrel Roll
3. Stalk
4. Barrel Roll
5. Stalk
6. Barrel Roll
7. Stalk
8. Barrel Roll
9. Gash
10. Gash
11. Gash
12. Gash
13. Berserk
14. Berserk
15. Stats
16. Berserk
17-25. Stats



Laning phase
good partners

andro engi slither bomb nymph glacius myrmidon hellbringer ds vj plague rider

heroes you dont wanna lane against
pharaoh torturer puppetmaster bomb slither engi

middle lane, well you can do decent against pretty much any hero
you cant rly kill mid versus any melee hero ( unless they make some major misstake ) so if you're up against some nasty melee pharaoh/devo/dw make sure you have the runecontrol and if possible gank the other lanes and get your kills from there
range heroes you can deal with pretty good and in most cases win mid

but when you're laning i'd suggest you take the easy lane but only if you got a decent lane partner ( top if hb bot if legion )

and if you got no good lane partner go mid with bottle first item get every rune harras/take cks with stalk and pushout the lane just be4 the rune spawns, either he can skip exp/gold from your creeps and guess the rune otherwise you'll always get it ( if you have wards ofc )

hard lane, well i'd say the only time you take this lane is either when you're going 3vs3 / 3vs2 / 1vs3




Starting items ( lane )
Mark of novice
Crushing claws
Minor totem
Minor totem
Runes of blight
Health potion

Items NOT TO GET
Frostburn why would you need 15% slow? you're at 522 ms like 60% of the time
Geometers bane why would you wanna dispell your ultimate?
Charged hammer you wanna get as much damage as possible from your gash and since charged hammer gives like 0 damage it's just shit
Riftshard you already got a crit yo?
Brutalizer do i even have to say anything?
Nullfire ( only time you get this is if you're up against a jera and need the purge )
Elder parasite shit item in general
Behemoths heart stupid item to get
Abyssal skull you'll already have lifesteal from wh/symbol


Recommended items ( by me )

early game
Steamboots
Bottle ( if mid )
Power supply ( always )
Blood chalice ( if lane )

mid game



1 of these will allow you to spam your stalk/barrel roll, how to choose which one to get?
in my personal order

#1 nullstone / well take a look on your enemy team, if they got alot of heavy single target spells which is nasty for madman example Arachna tundra pesti witch slayer puppet master etz etz a nullstone is a must

#2 hex / is for me just a personal favorite in itembuild just because A it is so fun B it's rly good, when to get it? well lets say you're in a game where you dont need nullstone but your farm is not good enough to get a 15 min ra, then i would suggest hex if you can have it at 20-30 min mark and it gives +10 all stats which is kinda good for surviveability

#3 runed axe ( i am not a big fan of ra madman ) / however if you can have a 15 min RA and your enemy team have no scary single target spells runed axe is a very viable choice since it will up your farm ability alot but remember it wont give you any surviveability

#4 hellflower / kinda same thing as hex all though i very much prefer hex over hellflower but thats just my opinion if you have a thing for hellflower you should try it

Shrunken head is almost always a must
Whispering helm ( if you go for an early WH i suggest you start to stack ancient asap and get some of your teammate to help you creep it )

late game ( full gear )
Post haste ( since you always need a tp slot )
Shrunken head
Nullstone/hex/ra/hellflower
Symbol of rage
Wingbow
Savage mace

with these itembuild

your stats will look like this

#1 the standard build
Post haste
Symbol of rage
Shrunken head
Savage mace
Nullstone
Wingbow

Strenght 138
Agility 154
Intelligence 85
Damage 352-356
Armor 26.56
Life 2772 ( 10.39 regen )
Mana 1105 ( 10.23 regen )
395 movespeed ( 522 with stalk ) ( 431 with berserk )
attacks per second 1.667 ( 2.222 with berserk )

#2 my personal favorite build
Post haste
Symbol of rage
Shrunken head
Savage mace
Hex
Wingbow

Strenght 133
Agility 149
Intelligence 105
Damage 337-341
Armor 25.86
Life 2677 ( 4.24 regen )
Mana 1365 ( 12.63 regen )
395 movespeed ( 522 with stalk ) ( 431 with berserk )
attacks per second 1.667 ( 2.222 with berserk )

#3 this one i dont like at all
Post haste
Symbol of rage
Shrunken head
Savage mace
Runed axe
Wingbow

Strenght 123
Agility 139
Intelligence 70
Damage 392-396
Armor 24.46
Life 2487 ( 9.94 regen )
Mana 910 ( 7.03 regen )
395 movespeed ( 522 with stalk ) ( 431 with berserk )
attacks per second 1.667 ( 2.222 with berserk )

#4 only tested this one or two times and i'm not rly sure if i dig it or not
Post haste
Symbol of rage
Shrunken head
Savage mace
Hellflower
Wingbow

Strenght 123
Agility 139
Intelligence 90
Damage 377-381
Armor 24.46
Life 2487 ( 3.94 regen )
Mana 1170 ( 11.73 regen )
395 movespeed ( 522 with stalk ) ( 431 with berserk )
attacks per second 1.818 ( 2.5 with berserk )
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Jan 24 2011 03:00am
Keep posting these
Tl;dr atm but will probably read it all later
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Jan 24 2011 04:36am
Vote for ulti at 10+11 or even 9+11
ws missing as partner
brutalizer isn't that bad :c especially if u are against some other hard carries it can lead to victory, since u can 1n1 pretty much ALL carries then (not saying that it should be recommended ofc, but neither its a "not to buy" imo)
and i like abyssal when we have another melee (semi)carry, you could also get frostwolf or shieldbreaker then
i also like sac stone if you don't need a nullstone. it just gives shitloads on hp+mana and nice regen, especially if you get many kills early/mid game it's just sick

This post was edited by The_Darkness_II on Jan 24 2011 04:46am
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Jan 24 2011 06:54am
if you get bored you should let me know what you use on myrm
sometimes i'll go support myrm with nomes, sheepstick, 'clone stick etc
other times ill go spellshards/codex/hellflower etc
just looking for more builds, possibly better than my shitty ones

This post was edited by Phantomking8 on Jan 24 2011 06:55am
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Jan 24 2011 07:53am
Quote (Phantomking8 @ 24 Jan 2011 13:54)
if you get bored you should let me know what you use on myrm
sometimes i'll go support myrm with nomes, sheepstick, 'clone stick etc
other times ill go spellshards/codex/hellflower etc
just looking for more builds, possibly better than my shitty ones


i dont play myrm alot but i like to go hotbl and like a hex usually never get anything more than that
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Jan 24 2011 08:05am
why not ult at 10,11?

you'd deal more dps with that than the extra two levels in gash I think
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Jan 24 2011 09:35am
just make a bolded thread called hero builds and place them all in one.
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Jan 24 2011 09:59am
Quote (garbo @ 24 Jan 2011 16:35)
just make a bolded thread called hero builds and place them all in one.


that cost coins omg?
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Quote (UndeadGad @ Jan 24 2011 10:59am)
that cost coins omg?


tell people to don8 for info :D
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