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Jun 7 2010 04:27am
After a good numbers of games with him and against him and i have also play him here my imho:

Zephyr is too powerfull, no other hero (also tempest) can jungle as fast as he can.

And don't tell that gank him in woods is enough, because every support of Zephyr team will put 1/2 wards for prevent ganking.

And also in lane he is a beast, cause with a good gust and another stunner (or demented shaman or also a nuker) he can kill one of the other 2 heroes in lane at level 3.

Also ganking him and make him feeding a bit like 0/3 - 0/4 isn't enough, because he still can farm in jungle mock of briliance and all items he need for destroy your team.

I want hear also other opinions about d2jsp Hon players about this Hero.
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Jun 7 2010 05:28am
Zephyr is one of those heros that can easily get out of hand if you don't keep a good track on him, but alot of heros are like that. You just need to prevent him from getting farmed, maybe pick a pusher team.
I don't think hes TOO op, good teamplay can counter him pretty easy.
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Jun 7 2010 07:08am
He's not op. He's just another carry with a nuke in my eyes. I've seen plenty of teams get bkb and just negate zephyr's damage.
Mock of brilliance isn't the easiest item to farm so your team does have some time to do something.
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Jun 7 2010 08:43am
zepher will probably get small nerfs from time to time in future patches, or at least I would think so. He used to be so shitty so maybe they figured zepher deserves his time to shine...who knows. Yes he is easy to counter but you have to understand that building your team around countering 1 hero isn't going to turn out well either...he isn't op because he can farm jungle quickly (and honestly warbeast can farm faster if you know how to pull creeps with wolves and micro a bit), he is op because he puts out a tremendous ammount of aoe early game (full cyclones, ult, gust = everything is dead) and by the time the aoe is less efficient he will have farmed a mock along with other items to compensate for it. It is extremely hard to gank zepher early game if you don't have the right heros, ever seen pharoah try to initiate on a zepeher with full cyclones early game? Melee heros are not going to gank a farmed zepher at any early stage in the game.

Zepher is just a carry that can fill any role. Tank support initiator ganker and carry, and all at the same time. He is OP because he is equally as powerful early-mid-late game while most hard carries don't shine until mid-late game and that is with proper farming. He can jungle, he can lane, and he can mid all with ease.

In my opinion he needs a nerf, but probably not for the same reasons a lot of people think he does, thats just their fault for not offensively warding to prevent his freefarm. He is just too easy to play for how strong of a hero he is with such little effort
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Jun 7 2010 09:38am
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Jun 7 2010 06:05pm
Power Supply on Zeph = gg
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Jun 7 2010 10:03pm
eh i've had no problem against zephs unless fed early and they push fully decked out engineer is more scary with turret, which is the hero i was against fully decked out zeph and he was useless
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Jun 7 2010 10:23pm
More like buff zephyr, he is underpowered.

But seriously, a good zephyr can tank a team of 5 for 2 minutes before dying. Watch like tSM or some of the pro teams when they pick up Zephyr, the only time he dies is when the other team uses 15 ult's on him totaling to 160000 damage.
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Jun 8 2010 02:48am
He is easy to handle, the game is going to be 4v5 early game... so capitalize on this?

However, zephyr farmed is bad news.
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Jun 8 2010 02:37pm
Quote (Sheabaf @ Jun 8 2010 03:48am)
He is easy to handle, the game is going to be 4v5 early game... so capitalize on this?

However, zephyr farmed is bad news.


a good zepher will be in lane for most of early game, you farm a lot faster that way and gust is insanely gfg with any ranged hero with a slow/stun. Zepher demented shaman is absolutely insane early game. Gust, Slow, Auto attack, and heal for the kill if they arent already dead yet

not to mention being unable to kill zepher with demented shaman laned, even with a mid to gank its not an easy kill. Hard to focus shaman too because of zephers gust. Swift Glac/Elec/Poly got nothing on it

This post was edited by Tattoooo on Jun 8 2010 02:39pm
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