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http://existenz.se/out.php?id=37175

this made me seriously lol
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Engi mines + Emerald growth = pure lolz.
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just saw this on existenz


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So you gotta be 18 to get the free HoN loot? Great. -.-
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Quote (garbo @ Jul 15 2011 07:11am)
1- i never go shield breaker on her unless i get behind and go it as first item because runed wont help i go the good lifesteal (name has escaped me atm  hungry spirt + 3hp regen/5arm helm)
2 - havent tried new alch bones yet



Quote (UndeadGad @ Jul 15 2011 07:12am)
my usual build is


ghost marchers
runed axe
whispering helm
shrunken
riftshard
wingbow/savage/daemonic
lastly turn whispering helm to symbol


well for roughly same price abyssal vs whispering

Radius: 900
Ally Units
+15% Base Damage
15% Lifesteal
+0.8 Mana Regeneration
+5 Armor

+20 Damage
+5 Armor
15% Lifesteal

prefer abyssal cuz it gives the aura which is pretty decent and u'll help out teamfights
also u dont lose orb effect slot on it only con wud be no dominate-stack creeps but hopefully u'll get some1 to do that for u

runed as first item is pretty standard, i do make steam myself never tried marchers on her
shrunken is a viable choice if they got a lot of cc but if u can manage to get a good position to jump in and silence u wont really need it imo
also u rly get riftshards before say wingbow or savage? and do u upg as well?

damn seems they made quite a few changes again in this patch will read and discuss later

This post was edited by Pitbulul on Jul 15 2011 08:00am
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Quote (Pitbulul @ 15 Jul 2011 14:59)
well for roughly same price abyssal vs whispering

Radius: 900                                     
Ally Units                                         
+15% Base Damage                       
15% Lifesteal
+0.8 Mana Regeneration
+5 Armor

+20 Damage
+5 Armor
15% Lifesteal

prefer abyssal cuz it gives the aura which is pretty decent and u'll help out teamfights
also u dont lose orb effect slot on it only con wud be no dominate-stack creeps but hopefully u'll get some1 to do that for u

runed as first item is pretty standard, i do make steam myself never tried marchers on her
shrunken is a viable choice if they got a lot of cc but if u can manage to get a good position to jump in and silence u wont really need it imo
also u rly get riftshards before say wingbow or savage? and do u upg as well?

damn seems they made quite a few changes again in this patch will read and discuss later


and yes rift be4 wing/savage,

rift4
shrunken
whispering
ghost marchers
runed axe

with those items you will dash out ~1000~ crits
"those items are worth 15000+" yeah so? as long as you have a ra under 20 min you will be able to get at least 450 gpm in pretty much ANY tdl game
personally all the games i've had a ra under 20 min i've never ended up under 650 gpm


abyssal vs whispering the conclusion is: if you are a carry you got 6 itemslots and you wanna make the most of it and therefor abyssal lose in 99% of the cases
whispering helm is much better and also the ability dominate creeps is not to underestimate

#1 you can stack ancient
#2 ice ogre will allow you and your team to total facerape enemy melee carry
#3 if you get to dominate 2 or more creep ( while already 1 is on ancient ) it allows you to farm forest while you're on different lane
#4 if you got spare creep and farming a lane or so you can use it as a ward so you can detect incomming ganks, OR if you get a early whispering helm + ra combination you can set up lots of solokills if micro + positioned properly
#5 you will have symbol of rage in lategame which will totally steamroll a shitty abyssal
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Jul 15 2011 08:39am
last game i pld like some days ago on dl
52444712
they had pink and brown smurfs pretty decent players but game ended in like 35 and i had 450gpm with no deaths

i guess if i can manage to outfarm them by that much item choice isn't really conclusive
u got some good arguments on whispering and i think #5 is strongest u can pretty much do without the rest if u get decent support
i still wouldnt make marchers tho i dont really see that working out the 10str early game helps alot

will try a new build if i random her again which is once in a blue moon
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Quote (Pitbulul @ 15 Jul 2011 15:39)
last game i pld like some days ago on dl
52444712
they had pink and brown smurfs pretty decent players but game ended in like 35 and i had 450gpm with no deaths

i guess if i can manage to outfarm them by that much item choice isn't really conclusive
u got some good arguments on whispering and i think #5 is strongest u can pretty much do without the rest if u get decent support
i still wouldnt make marchers tho i dont really see that working out the 10str early game helps alot

will try a new build if i random her again which is once in a blue moon


well i cant see why you would need the +10 str on steamboots tbh
yes you are squishy but you're not gonna be anywhere near a fight
and as i said the attackspeed is not important on tdl since i kinda see her as the same way i see gladi

she is supposed to use all her spells>attack once and thats all you should ever have to do in a teamfight



also since you are going for abyssal what orb are you going for?

the options would be

frostburn which is useless for tdl
frostwolf sure you can chase all day long but you will make awful damage
shieldbreaker i cant see why you would go this, i dunno i might would go this if i had an andro + ss + dampeer + abyssal skull on team

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