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Jul 15 2010 11:20am
SUCCUBUS. PERIOD. If your opponent stays mid and doesn't cheat by going to other lanes he basically can't win.

Start with flying courier / bottle / phase boots/ belt for hard matchups
Go for courier / immediate puzzlebox for easy ones

Early game nobody can survive ulti + puzzlebox + heartache
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Jul 17 2010 07:29am
Legion is rly good in 1vs1 :P
same goes for arma =)
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Jul 17 2010 10:57am
Quote (MidgetxMafia @ Jul 15 2010 12:20pm)
SUCCUBUS. PERIOD. If your opponent stays mid and doesn't cheat by going to other lanes he basically can't win.

Start with flying courier / bottle / phase boots/ belt for hard matchups
Go for courier / immediate puzzlebox for easy ones

Early game nobody can survive ulti + puzzlebox + heartache


last hitting with succuus vs any melee hero will be lots of fun....also in typical 1v1s at least that I've played and seen played you buy a puzzlebox recipe, destroy it, and there is no refilling your bottle with a flying courier. But that's just usually what I've seen....a 450 gold magic armor will prevet succubus from being able to ult, heartache combo someone. I'd take almost any carry vs succubus
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Jul 17 2010 11:12am
Quote (Tattoooo @ 17 Jul 2010 17:57)
last hitting with succuus vs any melee hero will be lots of fun....also in typical 1v1s at least that I've played and seen played you buy a puzzlebox recipe, destroy it, and there is no refilling your bottle with a flying courier. But that's just usually what I've seen....a 450 gold magic armor will prevet succubus from being able to ult, heartache combo someone. I'd take almost any carry vs succubus


heartache is pure damage i'm pretty sure
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Jul 17 2010 11:27am
Quote (UndeadGad @ Jul 17 2010 12:12pm)
heartache is pure damage i'm pretty sure


even maxed at level 4 it does 300 damage right? I don't think with stats and some magic armor it's going to be a finishing combo, I would still much rather play a melee carry of some sort, succubus wouldn't be getting any last hits without spending mana, unless there were no rules as to reducing the 3k starting gold succubus doesnt have much of a chance imo. Need level 7 to even have the lvl 4 heartache vs a hero like devourer who could have most of if not all of a headress farmed by this point...I'm not saying succubus is a bad solo, I just don't think shes the best/isn't counterable.
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Jul 17 2010 12:07pm
Quote (Tattoooo @ Jul 17 2010 01:27pm)
even maxed at level 4 it does 300 damage right? I don't think with stats and some magic armor it's going to be a finishing combo, I would still much rather play a melee carry of some sort, succubus wouldn't be getting any last hits without spending mana, unless there were no rules as to reducing the 3k starting gold succubus doesnt have much of a chance imo. Need level 7 to even have the lvl 4 heartache vs a hero like devourer who could have most of if not all of a headress farmed by this point...I'm not saying succubus is a bad solo, I just don't think shes the best/isn't counterable.


this
if electrician wasn't nerfed, he'd rape succubus probably 98:2
i'd probably personally go for someone like pestilence or some meaty strength semi-carry capable hero
a stat-stacked ranged carry would do it too
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Jul 17 2010 12:40pm
Quote (dude150 @ Jul 17 2010 01:07pm)
this
if electrician wasn't nerfed, he'd rape succubus probably 98:2
i'd probably personally go for someone like pestilence or some meaty strength semi-carry capable hero
a stat-stacked ranged carry would do it too


I think predator would be the most realistic semi carry to counter succubus just because of the built in magic immunity, otherwise a shrunken head would need to be farmed to get the kill.....pebbles with a portal key and a codex would probably force a quick concede too
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Jul 17 2010 12:44pm
Quote (Tattoooo @ Jul 17 2010 02:40pm)
I think predator would be the most realistic semi carry to counter succubus just because of the built in magic immunity, otherwise a shrunken head would need to be farmed to get the kill.....pebbles with a portal key and a codex would probably force a quick concede too


ah, that's true too
stone hide the smitten
there are many options
i was just thinking in terms of surviving the 100 to death succubus combo and having the ability to kill her with ease late game

This post was edited by dude150 on Jul 17 2010 12:44pm
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Jul 18 2010 07:11pm
Quote (banana_lover @ Jul 14 2010 12:00am)
Every hero can get raped by any hero. All depends on the player.


This
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Jul 19 2010 06:42am
Quote (Caws44 @ 19 Jul 2010 02:11)
This


thats not true in 1 on 1
nymphora wont win any of this battles
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