uhm, no need pedo.

reported.

This is unedited from 2006. It's a convo I had with this chick while we were at our respective colleges. And it's really really really really really gay. I hope you enjoy it while HoN is down.

The first half is me being super preachy and super fundie, you might want to skip to the break in the dialogue. Blue is me red is her.

(10:50:31 PM): Hey, how was your weekend?
(10:50:43 PM): weird, yours?
(10:51:10 PM): mine was good, had the relatives over and hung out with Matt
(10:51:14 PM): how was yours weird?
(10:51:36 PM): my parents are dating each other
(10:52:00 PM): aren't you happy for them?
(10:52:09 PM): i guess
(10:52:22 PM): it was just weird since it was different
(10:52:30 PM): you got to see your sister though right?
(10:52:34 PM): yeah
(10:53:35 PM): how was the flight?
(10:53:43 PM): bumpy
(10:53:48 PM): was the airline food better than the school food?
(10:54:17 PM): we only got peanuts since it was a short flight
(10:55:12 PM): oh, i got a question for you, though its kind of personal...
(10:55:37 PM): a comment about your journal
(10:56:12 PM): where you say you are tired of being an embarrassment for not being a Christian
(10:56:26 PM): i can give you some verses to use against them if you like
(10:56:33 PM): they shouldn't be making you feel that way
(10:56:42 PM): if you want
(10:57:50 PM): oh sorry, the RA came in..brb
(10:59:57 PM): oh yeah, the christian thing-
(11:02:02 PM): do you even care? i could give you something to say, to make them shut up
(11:02:32 PM): its just that the guy i'm sorta with is super christian and so he's not supposed to be dating me since i'm not a proper christian...so he can't tell his parents that he likes me or anything so it makes me sad when i hang out with his family and we have to pretend that there is nothing going on. they pray for mea lot to become christina and it just sort of bothers me that i cant be good enough the way that i am
(11:02:44 PM): i've been reading my little bible and i just dont know what to think
(11:04:17 PM): yeah, there are passages that say you shouldn't date a non-believer, its sucks i know
(11:10:06 PM): which parts of the Bible are you having touble with acknowledging as truth?
(11:13:20 PM): hmm
(11:13:31 PM): more importantly, are you doing things with this guy, with out his parents knowledge?
(11:14:03 PM): yeah, he's not being a very good christian but then he goes and expects me to convert and be all proper for him
(11:15:44 PM): don't convert because he wants you to, choose to live a Christian life because you want to
(11:16:01 PM): its not going to work if you are forced to believe something you don't want to believe in
(11:16:01 PM): i know, i wouldnt convert for him
(11:20:53 PM): Being Christian is not about feelings. You don't feel like a Christian, you don't feel like you are going to be saved. Its about knowing whats right and whats wrong. You know whether you are going to be saved or not. So don't believe in Christianity because you feel good, and you feel like you will be saved.
(11:22:07 PM): sometimes feel like if i died at a certain moment after i did something bad, i will go to hell. But no, I know i will be saved, because i have Jesus in my heart.
(11:22:08 PM): hmm, thats what jeremy always says
(11:22:12 PM): So don't base it on feelings
(11:22:24 PM): thats funny, thats exactly what he says
(11:24:40 PM): It's not really strange, there are really only a few key points about Christianity, and that was one of them. The rest is us Christians arguing about the doctrines, which is where we get the different denominations.
(11:24:56 PM): ah
(11:25:02 PM): what/
(11:25:14 PM): hmm, nothing
(11:26:45 PM): i guess, if you don't think its bad to date Jeremy, then go for it. But if you feel guilty, and think its wrong, maybe you should stop.
(11:29:11 PM): sometimes i want to tell him that i just dont think hes right for me- and not really because of the christina thing but just because hes not my type- only talks about engineer stuff and hes not all that active...but it would be really hard for me to tell him that since he likes me so much and hes really attached since im the first girl hes felt so strongly about..i dont think im leading him on because i do like him..its just..weird i guess
(11:29:30 PM): christian*
(11:30:28 PM): here, you and him should answer these yes or no questions
(11:30:29 PM): ) Do you desire a relationship for fun and recreation rather than one that leads to marriage?

2) Do you excitedly look forward to meeting the opposite sex at recreational events, in the classroom, or at your workplace?

3) Do you desire romantic emotions before you are both ready to marry?

4) Do you desire physical affection in a pre-marital relationship?

5) Do you resent the thought of your father initiating, investigating, choosing, and overseeing your romantic relationship? Instead, do you want control, freedom, and privacy in your relationship?

(11:31:12 PM): ok
(11:31:49 PM): the answers are all supposed to be no, huh
(11:31:54 PM): yep
(11:32:01 PM): oops
(11:32:13 PM): though i think 3 and 4 are bogus
(11:32:18 PM): those are way too extreme
(11:32:52 PM): oh well good than, i got some nos in there
(11:32:54 PM): why even date, it wouldn't seem special at all an emotionless romance
(11:33:06 PM): but its supposed to be all nos
(11:33:15 PM): "If you answer yes to any of these five questions, then you probably have a dating spirit, that is, a desire for the appeal, glamour, and allurement of dating."
(11:33:36 PM): "A dating spirit is a desire or yearning to enjoy the romantic appeal, glamour, and allurement of dating, even though you know in your conscience that it dishonors God's principles and distracts you from a single-minded devotion to Christ "
(11:33:58 PM): there is a whole website on courtship and betrothal
(11:34:19 PM): i skimmed over it because it was too much reading
(11:34:42 PM): hmm, well two yeses arent bad, right?
(11:35:16 PM): dating spirit, therefore, may be found in a young man or a young woman who is committed not to date, but who still allows his or her heart to become attached emotionally to someone prior to betrothal. A dating spirit is like lusting rather than committing adultery it's not as bad, but it's still very wrong and dangerous.
(11:35:42 PM): wow
(11:35:48 PM): you should get Jeremy to read this:
http://www.christiancourtship.com/html/resources.html
it's really really boring, i don't think you'd like it
(11:35:53 PM): i didn't
(11:36:18 PM): well its not wrong, but to have to best possible and safest marriage, you should follow this website as a guide
(11:36:34 PM): so you won't contribute to the 50% divorce rate which keeps getting higher
(11:37:08 PM): hmm, a marriage begun through dating is weak?
(11:37:19 PM): i dont understand, how are you supposed to get to know the person
(11:38:15 PM): yeah, i'm still a bit confused myself, but you are supposed to do courtship, then a berothal stage, then marriage
(11:38:37 PM): hmm
(11:38:40 PM): basically what i got out of the little i read, was that you take the relationship very very very slowly
(11:38:55 PM): yeah
(11:38:58 PM): so you don't jump into things too quickly
(11:39:21 PM): and so God is still the focus in your life, and not your gf/bf



Here's the Harry Met Sally part(this is when i thought the LT should be followed word for word):



(11:40:09 PM): it says to be friends first, but very recently i disagree with that statement. I probably should read it again in more detail.
(11:40:21 PM): hmm, i think dating is important though if you want to eventually find someone to make you the most happy
(11:40:42 PM): why not be friends first?
(11:40:53 PM): you serious?
(11:40:59 PM): yeah
(11:41:02 PM): you don't know why that doesn't work?
(11:41:30 PM): i know why this article says it doesnt work but i dotn necessarily agree
(11:41:59 PM): this article agrees that two people should be friends first, but i find that being friends first doesn't work
(11:42:07 PM): why?
(11:42:12 PM): i think it does
(11:42:46 PM): because one person only truly sees the other person as a friend
(11:42:56 PM): most of the time the girl thinks of the guy as a friend and nothing more
(11:43:13 PM): while the guy wants more than a friendship
(11:43:21 PM): i really dont think thats always the case though
(11:43:24 PM): at least i hope not
(11:44:11 PM): well, you may or may not know this, but most of the guys that hang around you want more than a friendship
(11:44:17 PM): but there are 3 exceptions to this
(11:45:10 PM): a guy can be friends with you because:
1) He doesn't find you attractive
2) He is currently doing better
3) he is gay
(11:45:24 PM): i'd have to say most guys would find you attractive
(11:45:29 PM): thats depressing
(11:45:34 PM): its the truth
(11:46:05 PM): ah yes, but the females are equally bad
(11:47:16 PM): some girls intentially lead guys on
(11:48:21 PM): mostly though, girls say they want something but go for something else
(11:49:12 PM): to sum it up, guys are assholes, and girls are bitches
(11:49:14 PM): there you go
(11:49:19 PM): thats really sad
(11:49:23 PM): i try to be good
(11:49:24 PM): hmm
(11:49:34 PM): no comment(she treated me like crap, but I held my tongue)
(1:49:43 PM): great
(11:50:58 PM): that's more of a pessimistic outlook on life though
(11:51:40 PM): i wouldn't say all, perhaps maybe 90% are assholes and 90% are bitches
(11:53:12 PM): well, it's getting late, maybe we can talk about more of this later. I'm going to get ready for bed. It was nice talking to you and i'm glad to hear your doing fine. Good night
(11:53:14 PM): yeah, hmm..well i know im not following the super christian relationship/dating standars, but i know in my heart that when i date someone i want to take it slowly and be friends for a while and get to know the person by talking and having fun and not necessarily being physical..and not being manipulative or bitchy
(11:53:22 PM): good
(11:53:37 PM): thats a good step, now you must put it into actions
(11:53:52 PM): well its late, ttyl
(11:54:02 PM): thats how all my relationships have been..yeah, i need to take a shower
(11:54:22 PM): night, it was nice talking to you
(11:54:25 PM): yeah we'll talk later, good night
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Session concluded at 11:54:29 PM

quality mad raven

What am I watching...?

B- just cuz of the color.

In all honesty, I like the points you brought up.

does this shit actually work on girls prick? or u just messing with their heads cuz u a sick fuck?

also ive never been able to be just friends with girls and i dont know why people say that oh lets just be friends?
goes from a few phone calls to texting to the average email and then to nothing

I've managed so far, although I can't say these friendships are completely free of any thoughts of "being together" or "background agendas", but I keep myself at bay, and so do the girls I'm friends with. It's just nice to have their company, even if it's not on a sexual level.

I'm not going to read that dialogue because it's too fucking painful for me. Brings back too many embarrassing memories.

Discussing religion and philosophy with chicks is a nono. Very very few chicks are interested in that shit, especially attractive ones.

It's easy to be friends with chicks, they just have to be really unattractive. If you want to bang them you can't be friends with them because the sex gets in the way. You've never watched When Harry met Sally?

guess im past the age of playing games. went on a date with a blonde once, id give her a solid 8/10 which for a blonde is pretty gg so...
anyway i called her to go out again picked up a vibe since she didnt want to so i sent her an email asking whats up she said for now she just wants to be friends, so im like k w/e and i called it quits with her.
after a few days i get a mail from her asking whats up why i dont call her or w/e and im like wtf? sure guys can be friends with girls as in ure friends with the girl a friend is dating or from having common friends w/e but doing shit just the 2 of u will never work.
for me if i like her yea i have an end goal if i dont why do i wanna hang out with her anyway?